How Much Would You Pay?

[Mel Smooth]

Sorry but you're only talking about what might affect one specific individual, and as I said we are all different with different bodies that all move individually.

And to say that anything that happens after the ball has left the club has any influence on it's own is just la la land... How on earth can a ball be influenced by a golf club when it's already in the air and gone? Possibly what you're alluding to is that positions after impact can represent the club movements and positions just pre-impact, but the delivery of the club is the only thing that influences ball flight obviously. The positions after impact do not AFFECT anything, they just SHOW what has happened before the club has hit the ball, eg for me a higher follow through is a result of a shallower delivery more from the inside, a low follow through sometimes means I've chopped down a bit too much.

So you’re not thinking about finishing position, or driving through the swing after impact?

 

[Imurg]

Charlie Hull's dad used to do this to Charlie when she was a kid.
Top of the backswing he'd call high draw, low cut etc etc......

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It is what happens from the downswing hip to the follow through hip that matters.

The hip to hip actions of Ben Hogan and Doug Saunders are identical other than Saunders has a wider stance.

One is generally regarded as the greatest swing in golf, the other, the ugliest swing to nearly win an Open

 

[Golf is fun]

Charlie Hull's dad used to do this to Charlie when she was a kid.
Top of the backswing he'd call high draw, low cut etc etc......

It's almost like the ability to do this and skill level are linked.

 

[Deleted member 36735]

Calling the shot shape from the top of the backswing is a great drill that every player should try.

So take the opposite level of ability from players who can do it, many many many golfers are simply unable to do anything but throw the club out and come down steeply from the most picture-perfect position, hence the majority bad shot is a slice/pull/anything starting left.

That's my own ingrained fault that I've been constantly fighting for over 4 decades, no lovely backswing position is going to fix it, it's all about the first bit of movement down.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Calling the shot shape from the top of the backswing is a great drill that every player should try.

So take the opposite level of ability from players who can do it, many many many golfers are simply unable to do anything but throw the club out and come down steeply from the most picture-perfect position, hence the majority bad shot is a slice/pull/anything starting left.

That's my own ingrained fault that I've been constantly fighting for over 4 decades, no lovely backswing position is going to fix it, it's all about the first bit of movement down.

Will it be ok if people start calling


Hook , slice , fat , thin , top , shank , chunk

 

[Deleted member 36735]

Will it be ok if people start calling


Hook , slice , fat , thin , top , shank , chunk

I've already mastered those thanks...

 

[#NotTigerWoods]

Calling the shot shape from the top of the backswing is a great drill that every player should try.

So take the opposite level of ability from players who can do it, many many many golfers are simply unable to do anything but throw the club out and come down steeply from the most picture-perfect position, hence the majority bad shot is a slice/pull/anything starting left.

That's my own ingrained fault that I've been constantly fighting for over 4 decades, no lovely backswing position is going to fix it, it's all about the first bit of movement down.

Golfing anomalies aside, my thoughts are that if the vast majority of golfers are looking to improve the consistency of their ballstriking, a good takeaway where the clubhead path/shaft plane/shoulder plane all match going back, would surely make for less club/body manipulations throughout the remainder of the swing. (This includes slightly flat or upright swing plane theories).

Not many golfers besides the pros and elite amateurs have time to practice hours on end, therefore if one is able to get to a decent top of the backswing in this more on plane, body-friendly, athletic way, surely it then makes it easier to only focus on feelings for the downswing in the quest achieve better consistency.

 

[Orikoru]

Will it be ok if people start calling


Hook , slice , fat , thin , top , shank , chunk

Ahh you beat me to that one. Duff!

 

[sunshine]

Yup, all that matters is how the club hits the ball.

I disagree. I'd much rather have Scott's swing over Furyk's. I bet Scott's ball striking and distances are significantly better. Putting was Furyk's strength.

Plus, I don't want an ugly swing, looking good is an important aspect to golf

 

[hambugerpete]

I disagree. I'd much rather have Scott's swing over Furyk's. I bet Scott's ball striking and distances are significantly better. Putting was Furyk's strength.

Plus, I don't want an ugly swing, looking good is an important aspect to golf

Yes it's nonsense to suggest the backswing isn't important, otherwise why is it taught .

 

[Golf is fun]

Yes it's nonsense to suggest the backswing isn't important, otherwise why is it taught .

Something being taught doesn't mean it is right or even best.

That said, I think the issue here is that everyone is seeing this as black and white, either the backswing is absolutely critical to the golf swing, or it has no value at all and can be consigned to the bin. When in reality this is more nuanced, the backswing can make it easier or harder to achieve good impact. If you have a completely wild motion that makes achieving good impact impossible you should probably fix that, if you're within the ranges that would allow you to achieve a good impact, then there are probably better things to focus your limited time and energy on than trying to achieve a backswing position that looks prettier, especially as there isn't a single "one size fits all" solution as we all have slightly different physiology.