How far do you hit your clubs

Last year I played a 6 handicapper in a matchplay comp, I was off 16 at the time.
He took his driver off the first (a longish, downhill par 4). I took a 6 iron to the middle of the fairway and then hit my 9 iron to the middle of the green.
That got into his head and I won the match. He told me later, all he kept thinking was... how on earth can a 16 handicapper hit a 6 and a 9, when he needed a driver and a wedge?

It's all about playing within your own comfort zone. I know I hit my 6 iron long and straight so decided to not only keep it on the fairway but also try and get in his head.
It worked.
No need to smash it miles, just keep it straight!

If you can reach the green with a 6iron then a 9iron, it must be possible to drive pretty close to the green
 
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If you can reach the green with a 6iron then a 9iron, it must be possible to drive pretty close to the green

I can get to within 50/60 yards, but only if you're really straight (Which I'm not). The hole is downhill, but between 170/150 there's a flat shelve which I can reach from the tombstones. Then, as it's downhill it's anything between a wedge and a 9 iron.
The thing is everybody takes a driver off the first, and nearly everybody puts themselves in trouble. One of the main reasons my handicap has come down is because I now choose accuracy over distance.
 
Yesterday - 10-15yds further than normal as I decided (when out for a knock by myself) to try taking a fuller swing and attack the ball a bit more - now that my changed (new) swing seems to be working OK for my 'normal' backswing and 'attack'.
 
I did my gap testing last night, mine are as follows (averages over 10-15 shots);

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[TD="width: 64"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 64"]Carry[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 64"]Total[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]LW[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]68[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, align: right"]70[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]SW[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]84[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]87[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]GW[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]100[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]105[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]PW[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]119[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]124[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]9i[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]130[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]137[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]8i[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]139[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]148[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]7i[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]152[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]6i[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]170[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]5i[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]163[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]179[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl67"]4h[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]177[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]191[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]3w[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]200[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]228[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]217[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]239[/TD]
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I need something, probably a 3 hybrid, to plug the gap between my 4h and 3 wood. I was also spinning the driver at 3500rpm so I am going to work on bringing this down to increase my distance with the driver - I occasionally get this right and hit one an extra 15 or so yards carry.

Distance isnt such a biggy though, I would sooner be consistently straight and lose distance and Im not even a big hitter as it is. Seems too many people worry about distance rather than hitting it straight.

Edit: i also didnt seem to be hitting my 5 iron well at all last night, this is normally around 170 carry.

Haven't ever had formal gap testing apart from memory during fittings and those carry yardages are basically the same as mine. Regarding the OP, no you do not need more distance to get down to the teens. You just need to get putting down to somewhere under 34-35 a round, avoid penalty strokes and duffed/bladed short game shots. Stellar quality is not necessary, however much easier said than done
 
In answer to your question, in benign conditions with a good strike I hit my 50* GW approx 120, my 8 iron approx 155, and my 6 iron approx 180 and my 5 wood approx 235. The rest I guess based on those.

Do you need to hit further to come down? No
Would it make life easier for you if you did? Undoubtedly

The closer you are to the green the easier the next shot (unless you're in the rubbish), and if that next shot is with a shorter club it's even easier.

It's possible that the better you get the further you'll hit it anyway, better strike, better action etc
 
The closer you are to the green the easier the next shot (unless you're in the rubbish), and if that next shot is with a shorter club it's even easier.


Not with my short game!!:(
 
Not with my short game!!:(

I was thinking more like:
If the OP currently hits a par 4 in driver 5 iron, with improved distance this could become a longer driver and hitting the irons further ie, driver, 8 iron for example.
 
I was thinking more like:
If the OP currently hits a par 4 in driver 5 iron, with improved distance this could become a longer driver and hitting the irons further ie, driver, 8 iron for example.

Agree completely.

I have always believe that extra distance(ball speed) equates to potentially shooting better scores easier, if that makes sense!

This was after playing with a client who hit his driver about 320-330 yards, think IIRC he hit is 9 iron 170 yards and so on. It was mental watching for me and a real eye opener for me.

At the time I was shooting from par to more normally high single figures and I only hit a driver about 230(carry was about 190-200 on a normal drive) or a good one 270 yards(in the middle of summer with Essex clay run). I was early 30s at the time. I used to hit my irons further as an equivalent, so for instance back then my 7 iron(33 degrees) used to go about 140 yards carry. I am now 47 and recently increased these distances, just like any sport you can get better and faster and don't believe people who say your swing speed is what it is.

On a badish short game day, that guy could easily play to my handicap or better. Whereas with the distance I used to hit the ball, I was almost never going to get a lower handicap as I needed everything working to play to my handicap.

So to answer the OPs question, you can get a lot lower than your current handicap with your distances provided your short game/putting is good, that is for sure.

Best of luck with the improvements.
 
Out last night for a few holes trying out my new 'approach' to shots - fuller swing and more 'attack'. In benign conditions I seem to fairly consistently hit a 52* wedge about 110yds, My 5i seems to be going about 180yds, 7i about 155yds. Works well for me.
 
Am i the only one who considers every round a 'gapping session'?

I know when I've hit it normally, I know how far it's gone. I know the conditions I hit it under (temperature, humidity, elevation and wind).

Or to put it another way my distances are a constant dynamic database rather than a chart created at one moment in one set of conditions that I reference religiously and watch my 7 iron fly the green on a hot summers day but come up short in the bunker in February.

And yes, I do believe that the differences are that significant.

Back to the OP - the distances quoted suggest you will benefit most on making a better swing/contact on your longer clubs because you aren't getting the proportional distance increase associated with those clubs physical attributes. However, this is a very normal situation for even quite experienced players.

Don't try and hit it harder; hit it better.

Wise words Duncan.
Golfers nowadays seem to be obsessed by distance stats but those stored stats can vary every 5 minutes.
In my day you played the club for the shot, a knock down 9 iron and a wee cut 7 iron were my best performers.
I have seen great players hitting a 4 iron 50 yards because that is how they saw the shot.

Without being too rude how can a 24 handicapper possibly know his consistent distances. Duncan's examples above show that even a quality player can be caught out.

It is one thing knowing the distance to the pin and how far you can hit that distance [on the odd occasion with a well hit shot].
Seeing the shot and playing the appropriate club matter much more.
[Tin hat now firmly on]
 
Just from a standard par 3 with no slopes or wind i would hit the following

80 to 130 be pitching wedge with different length swings
9 iron 140
8 iron 150
7 iron 160
6 iron 170
5 iron 180
4 iron 190
hybrid 200
3 wood 220
driver 240+


Depending on danger at front I might club up once
 
I hit it pretty short, even for a lady. The good thing is: my distances are pretty bang on usually.

Driver 160 - 170 yards ... I have hit it up to 200 yards on a few really good drives (draw and the wind helping), but those are real exceptions
3 wood 140 yards
7 wood 125 yards
4 hybrid 115 yards
5 iron 108 yards
6 iron 100 yards
7 iron 90 yards
8 iron 80 yards
9 iron 70 yards
pw 60 yards
sw ... don't really know, hardly ever hit a full shot with it, prob apprx. 45 yards
 
Am i the only one who considers every round a 'gapping session'?

I know when I've hit it normally, I know how far it's gone. I know the conditions I hit it under (temperature, humidity, elevation and wind).

Or to put it another way my distances are a constant dynamic database
rather than a chart created at one moment in one set of conditions that I reference religiously and watch my 7 iron fly the green on a hot summers day but come up short in the bunker in February.

And yes, I do believe that the differences are that significant.

Back to the OP - the distances quoted suggest you will benefit most on making a better swing/contact on your longer clubs because you aren't getting the proportional distance increase associated with those clubs physical attributes. However, this is a very normal situation for even quite experienced players.

Don't try and hit it harder; hit it better.

I agree - and this is one concern I have in respect I have of development of distance measuring devices.

Over time the player builds up his own database of clubbing distances in accordance with temperature, humidity, elevation and wind. This database is stored in the 'cloud' and can be accessed from the players device. And so comes the day when the players device or devices measure these conditions and accessing the appropriate dataset on the cloud advises the player of club to use - taking into account wind direction and elevation change specific to the shot about to be played.

it's coming to a golf device near you - but that is another debate
 
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I was thinking more like:
If the OP currently hits a par 4 in driver 5 iron, with improved distance this could become a longer driver and hitting the irons further ie, driver, 8 iron for example.

I think that what improved distance also gives is the ability to hit easier clubs from tee box and not always needing a driver. I use my rescue and 3w quite often from the tee, as it then leaves with a nice wedge shot, rather than having to grip down and hit half shots.
 
Duncan's words are wise - and remind me of, and I paraphrase, those of John Jacob To hit the ball further - don't hit it harder - hit it better.
 
I think that what improved distance also gives is the ability to hit easier clubs from tee box and not always needing a driver. I use my rescue and 3w quite often from the tee, as it then leaves with a nice wedge shot, rather than having to grip down and hit half shots.

Totally agree, added distance via better striking/technique gives you the choice to play the course better. Rather than always having to go full bore with the big dog you can plot your way round if necessary/preferable.
 
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