Hitting ball on green

[atticusfinch]

1. I was responding to niblick's variation, not to the first post.

2. I live on the other side of the pond. "In off" is a phrase that has no meaning to me. Especially in a golf context. I guess people write for a brit audience.

3 Thanks for agreeing that we do not have enough facts regarding infringement of rule 22 rights.

People can misinterpret facts or not read them carefully but in neither case do they make things up. Not very friendly to suggest so.

 

[TheJezster]

We're talking about golf, not billiards.

Same language, same meaning.

 

[Colin L]

We're talking about golf, not billiards.

Yes, but we regularly understand the meaning of a word or phrase in one context because we know its meaning in another, perhaps in this case even its original context. Is "in off" not used in the game of pool in the USA?

Had he used a different expression, MashieNiblick might equally have said his opponent's ball "ricocheted" off his ball and went into the hole. From shooting not golf, but if you know the usual context you understand the meaning.

Anyway, enough of the language lesson. What matters is that the ball at rest gets replaced and the one that is deflected luckily into the hole is holed with or without penalty depending on the format.

Now, do you think anyone would buy the argument that because of earlier studies in Old English literature, I took "worm" in its earlier meaning of a dragon and therefore a burrowing animal?

No?

Thought not.

 

[Foxholer]

We're talking about golf, not billiards.

Try Pool? Or 8-Ball?

There's actually an old version of Billiards where the table has no pockets, so no 'in-offs'. All scoring is done with Cannons (your ball hitting both other balls) - and your ball has to hit 3 cushions in the process Mozart was apparently a master of it!

But enough game 'history'!

Are you saying that, in Matchplay, if you state that you want to mark your ball because you feel it might assist your opponent, if your opponent realises the same, ignores your request - even if you are in the process of going to mark your ball - and simply takes his shot, there is no Penalty?

 

[MashieNiblick]

Thanks guys. Didn't mean to cause confusion. I appreciate all the answers given so far.

Yes by "in off" I meant as in the billiards/snooker sense that my OP's ball in motion was deflected into the hole after striking my ball which was at rest by the hole. Use of phrase possibly influenced subliminally by the fact that the snooker World Championships are currently in progress.

The issue I was interested in is really about at what point it may be considered that I have or haven't been given a fair opportunity to exercise my right under the Rules to lift my ball (hence reference to decision 16-2/2) and whether my intention to lift my ball has to be explicit (hence reference to decision 3-4/1).

I probably wouldn't be too pleased if I lost the hole in these circs, especially as my ball would probably be only a few inches from the hole but sometimes the Rules are harsh.

Just a bit of hypothetical fun for a Friday really (I've got the day off ).

 

[Foxholer]

Just a bit of hypothetical fun for a Friday really (I've got the day off ).

Why aren't you playing Golf then?!

 

[chrisd]

Why aren't you playing Golf then?!

Cos he "in, off the course" obvious innit??

 

[MashieNiblick]

Why aren't you playing Golf then?!

Good question. oo:

1. I have other hobbies (gardening in this case)
2. It looks like it's going to rain (I know - southern softie!)
3. Might go and hit some balls later (might try some in-offs on the practice green)

 

[Region3]

There's actually an old version of Billiards where the table has no pockets, so no 'in-offs'. All scoring is done with Cannons (your ball hitting both other balls) - and your ball has to hit 3 cushions in the process Mozart was apparently a master of it!

Sorry for going off-topic, but search for Semih Sayginer on YouTube. Not for the purists but amazing nonetheless. The proper game is fascinating to me as well, but not for the easily bored!