High handicappers who hit the ball well and far...

[Deleted member 1147]

I do partly agree with Slugger.
When people state their distances, or what they believe are their distances, alot of people on here are very sceptical, and sometimes overly critical.
I know that most of us over estimate our drives sometimes, but not always!

If someone says they hit 260 but have a higher handicap it doesn't mean they are exaggerating they may just be terrible at the rest of the game.

I do hit a long'ish ball but can't putt, hence still playing off 8.

Also, I have recently played with a diary farmer who is crap at most areas of the game but hits the ball a country mile. So if he says he hits most drives 270-280 I know it's true. Yet he plays off 25!

 

[Robobum]

Parmo kind of proves the point. To average 260 is some going, it either means he hasn't topped any, duffed some or skyed a couple, either that or he has all of the above but has smashed a load well out past 300yds to make up for them!!??

I think we both know that what Parmo means is when he hits a good one thats the sort of distance he thinks it goes rather than being an average. Having said that I don't think that he is right, as 260 is a long way. During the late 80's early 90's that not far short of how far the top pro's were hitting it.

I think everyone overestimates their yardages and I cannot see how a high handicapper can hit it that sort of distance. Given that the average lengh of a par 4 is approx 340ish how bad do you have to be from 80 yrds and in

That is the whole point Freddie, we all know what is meant but that is not what they are posting and that's exactly why sceptical replies are put in there.

Just had a quick look and 260yds will still be top 250 on the Tour

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Given that the average lengh of a par 4 is approx 340ish how bad do you have to be from 80 yrds and in

Well it's not unusual for me to take 3 or 4 from 80 yards in.

In fact the other week in competition I took 3 from 12 feet away!

 

[slugger]

last week i got to the fringe of a 500 yd par 5 in two shots - with my 3 wood - and still took 6!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I think we need a rules thread. It should give everyone information on how to post and the meaning of golfing terms.

For example:

"Do not state an average driving distance as some pedants will get upset. Instead, state how far you think you hit the ball when the ball is struck somewhere between quite well & well. Giving the caveat that sometimes it may include drives which didn't quite hit the fairway and as such couldn't be included in longest drives comps"

 

[freddielong]

Parmo kind of proves the point. To average 260 is some going, it either means he hasn't topped any, duffed some or skyed a couple, either that or he has all of the above but has smashed a load well out past 300yds to make up for them!!??

I think we both know that what Parmo means is when he hits a good one thats the sort of distance he thinks it goes rather than being an average. Having said that I don't think that he is right, as 260 is a long way. During the late 80's early 90's that not far short of how far the top pro's were hitting it.

I think everyone overestimates their yardages and I cannot see how a high handicapper can hit it that sort of distance. Given that the average lengh of a par 4 is approx 340ish how bad do you have to be from 80 yrds and in

That is the whole point Freddie, we all know what is meant but that is not what they are posting and that's exactly why sceptical replies are put in there.

Just had a quick look and 260yds will still be top 250 on the Tour

I think this kind of hits the nail on the head they are talking sunday best rather than average - people need to be a bit careful how they word things if the want it to be believed and not receive sarcastic comments.

 

[krokodil]

I wouldn't decry someone who says they can knock the ball 280-300 yds whether they're a low or high handicapper, however I'd say the instances of a high handicapper doing it would be rare.

Ball flight, contact, spin, shape are all factors in doing this and at my club the only guys who demonstrate that consistently are a few 4-5hdcpers and more so the 1-2 boys. That said, the 20 odd handicapper big chap can no doubt come out with a saturday best and smash one right down the middle.

 

[Robobum]

Never knew that average was exclusive as a golfing term??

Learn something new every day.

 

[Parmo]

The reason I know my distances is because I use GPS and I use Google earth to tell me, I don't second guess them, I know the holes and distances of my local. I was unofficial 15 last summer on Golfshake, I was shooting between 77-85 off Scratch 65 par 70. This season is my first competative and I am just adjusting to playing with strangers (oo matron) and the added pressure of comps hence the 23 hcp. Take last Sunday, I shot a 48 on the first 9 (9 holer) and then eagled the 10th and ended with a 37 over 9 leaving 85, that means in theory I could shoot on a good day 74 or there abouts, 4 over par and 9 over scratch.

 

[Robobum]

I think we need a rules thread. It should give everyone information on how to post and the meaning of golfing terms.

For example:

"Do not state an average driving distance as some pedants will get upset. Instead, state how far you think you hit the ball when the ball is struck somewhere between quite well & well. Giving the caveat that sometimes it may include drives which didn't quite hit the fairway and as such couldn't be included in longest drives comps"

Are sarcastic comments okay for every post or are they only allowed after sceptical ones??

 

[Earl]

My opinion is if you can average 260 yard drives and hit the fairways then your h/cap cannot be over 18 but more like single figures/pro. Now if you are saying you can hit the ball 260 yards and it can be anywhere rough, river, car park then you h/cap could be well over 18.

 

[Robobum]

......that means in theory I could shoot on a good day 74 or there abouts, 4 over par and 9 over scratch.

One things for sure Parmo, the glass is always half full in your house!!

<The glass contents were measured using an approved measuring device>

 

[Parmo]

you know it

 

[Twire]

Parmo, when you say 65 scratch does that mean sss is 65?

I know our course is par 70 sss 71

 

[freddielong]

I think we need a rules thread. It should give everyone information on how to post and the meaning of golfing terms.

For example:

"Do not state an average driving distance as some pedants will get upset. Instead, state how far you think you hit the ball when the ball is struck somewhere between quite well & well. Giving the caveat that sometimes it may include drives which didn't quite hit the fairway and as such couldn't be included in longest drives comps"

Are sarcastic comments okay for every post or are they only allowed after sceptical ones??

I think sceptical should come first then there should be a warning before the sarcastic comments are unleashed LOL

 

[The23rdman]

Parmo, when you say 65 scratch does that mean sss is 65?

I know our course is par 70 sss 71

The course Parmo plays is very short, mate. This is in no way meant to be a slur. I'm mearly explaining why it has a sss of 65. The 1st is reachable with a 5 iron if you're brave and two other par fours are reachable with hybrids or woods in the right conditions. It's still quite tricky though.

 

[Macster]

I dont care how far anyone hits it, but to say that most of us 'dont really know' is a lot of crap.

I know how far I have hit the ball by where I am in relation to the 150yd markers, isnt that how we all judge ?
Always easy to know how far from the Tee I have hit it.

On that basis, even off my 12 H/C, my Tee shot last night on my 16th went exactly 315yds, admittedly downwind, as I was 4/5yds short of the 150yd sticks, which is to the centre of the green.

Doing it everytime is another thing !!

 

[Robobum]

........Tee shot last night on my 16th went <u>exactly </u> 315yds, admittedly downwind, as I was <u>4/5yds </u> short of the 150yd sticks, which is to the centre of the green.

Haha, brilliant

 

[Twire]

Parmo, when you say 65 scratch does that mean sss is 65?

I know our course is par 70 sss 71

The course Parmo plays is very short, mate. This is in no way meant to be a slur. I'm mearly explaining why it has a sss of 65. The 1st is reachable with a 5 iron if you're brave and two other par fours are reachable with hybrids or woods in the right conditions. It's still quite tricky though.

That's fine, I was only asking because i've never come accoss a SSS 5 shots less than par before.

 

[The23rdman]

Parmo, when you say 65 scratch does that mean sss is 65?

I know our course is par 70 sss 71

The course Parmo plays is very short, mate. This is in no way meant to be a slur. I'm mearly explaining why it has a sss of 65. The 1st is reachable with a 5 iron if you're brave and two other par fours are reachable with hybrids or woods in the right conditions. It's still quite tricky though.

I think it's set up for the old timers.


That's fine, I was only asking because i've never come accoss a SSS 5 shots less than par before.