Help For Heroes........not in Scotland apparently. :(

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I don't think anyone who knows the place ever calls it anything other than Derry. Never heard a single Irishman North or South Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim or Hindu call it Londonderry.
 
Backache said:
I don't think anyone who knows the place ever calls it anything other than Derry. Never heard a single Irishman North or South Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim or Hindu call it Londonderry.
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Is correct :thup:
 
Ethan said:
Actually it has everything to do with the topic. It liiudtstes that the true meaning of something may go far beyond the semantics. Such as the shirt in question.
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If you think Derry (London or otherwise) has anything to do with a bloody H4H rugby top then I pity you, I really do.

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Old Skier said:
That's better I thought you had gone all gooey. Ireland is to the left of Liverpool.
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One of my parents come from N Ireland and currently one uncle lives in Derry so best not to make assumptions ok

It seems to me you are clearly posting on a wind up
 
Old Skier said:
You might have led a sheltered life, unfortunately I haven't . My apologise for slightly derailing an amusing thread.
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I very probably have and don't claim to know every Irishman who ever existed but of the fairly large number that I have met down the years I cannot recall ever having heard a single one talk about Londonderry, only Derry.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
One of my parents come from N Ireland and currently one uncle lives in Derry so best not to make assumptions ok

It seems to me you are clearly posting on a wind up
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I'm not sure when you last went, my last trip was in the 90's and the Blackbush boys were still adding London and the Jamie boys not, so maybe everything has changed and it's all a misunderstanding.
 
c1973 said:
Some interesting comments. Quite a few are what we thought they would be tbf, (disappointing, but sadly not surprising).

A few points.

It is not a football top.
It has nothing to do with Rangers.
It has even less to do with religion.
And bugger all to do with golf club dress codes.

Sadly, the bigger issue has been missed (as we thought it would be). Should the barman not be refusing to serve those who might 'kick off' ? As, surely those are the ones with the problem and not the ex serviceman who was willing to put his life on the line to protect the freedoms enjoyed by all those in the bar.

Who would you rather serve; The ex serviceman wanting a refreshing soft drink, or the knuckle dragger that thinks a blue H4H charity rugby top with a Union Jack on it is a justifiable reason to abuse someone?


He's supporting a charity for pitys sake!
A charity many on here are more than happy to support.
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Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees, if you seriously don't think that top could cause trouble in the Scottish central belt you are seriously naive.
 
I too didn't see the top as a footie top. However, as much as I think the hotel barman behaved like a.... maybe we need to take a step back and view it in the context of many of the local posters. Sectarianism either side of the water is very much alive and kicking(the hell out of each other). I've been in and out of NI and Scotland since the early '70's. Nowts really changed in terms of feelings, although there isn't the loud bangs of the 70's and early 80's.

Maybe globally its sad, but locally its right...maybe
 
Bri, if it happened in Edinburgh i would understand and agree with the uproar but not in the west unfortunately, sad times and they aren't changing,
 
Val said:
Bri, if it happened in Edinburgh i would understand and agree with the uproar but not in the west unfortunately, sad times and they aren't changing,
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You're not kidding. I've loved my time in Scotland, apart from my trips to Glasgow. The only place I've been told by customers, "we don't want English up here." And one of those comments was from one of my staff who told me to stay away from Glasgow. That said, I've had many a birthday in Edinburgh, and loved every visit.
 
Hobbit said:
I too didn't see the top as a footie top. However, as much as I think the hotel barman behaved like a.... maybe we need to take a step back and view it in the context of many of the local posters. Sectarianism either side of the water is very much alive and kicking(the hell out of each other). I've been in and out of NI and Scotland since the early '70's. Nowts really changed in terms of feelings, although there isn't the loud bangs of the 70's and early 80's.

Maybe globally its sad, but locally its right...maybe
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Got to agree with this.

The initial reaction is - that's bad form, but after val's insightful local input, can see the other side of the argument.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Got to agree with this.

The initial reaction is - that's bad form, but after val's insightful local input, can see the other side of the argument.
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Jesus, Mary & Joseph Pete, for the love of god, saints preserve us, don't agree with him. He's from the t'other side...

Sorry, that's the Kildare part of me escaping!!
 
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