Help For Heroes........not in Scotland apparently. :(

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Hobbit said:
Jesus, Mary & Joseph Pete, for the love of god, saints preserve us, don't agree with him. He's from the t'other side...

Sorry, that's the Kildare part of me escaping!!
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Same side as me, don't forget Liverpool is the 2nd capital of Ireland. My arl fella is a left footer, though.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Hearts strip has a 'Help the Children' logo so maybees not.;)
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Are you purposely winding this up, the thick Englishmen's point was that it was a Rugby Top and H4H and he served the Country, blah blah blah.
A Hearts top IS a football top and he'd only wear it if he followed them and be aware of his surroundings.
 
pauldj42 said:
Are you purposely winding this up, the thick Englishmen's point was that it was a Rugby Top and H4H and he served the Country, blah blah blah. A Hearts top IS a football top and he'd only wear it if he followed them and be aware of his surroundings.
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Settings gone bit doolallay again..
 
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Just to be clear, the guy wasnt served just because he was wearing a H4H top, he wasnt served because there is a problem with football colours in the area and the top looks like a Rangers top. You cannot dispute that fact and it cannot be disputed that in West and Central Scotland Rangers and Celtic jerseys (and those that look like them) cause trouble in bars. Sad, yes but very true. The hotel are quoted in the article saying, We are in an area where football colours are a big issue. Our barman is very experienced. It was nothing at all to do with the charity. For some reason this part hasn't been commented on.
 
Val said:
Just to be clear, the guy wasnt served just because he was wearing a H4H top, he wasnt served because there is a problem with football colours in the area and the top looks like a Rangers top. You cannot dispute that fact and it cannot be disputed that in West and Central Scotland Rangers and Celtic jerseys (and those that look like them) cause trouble in bars. Sad, yes but very true. The hotel are quoted in the article saying, We are in an area where football colours are a big issue. Our barman is very experienced. It was nothing at all to do with the charity. For some reason this part hasn't been commented on.
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Spot on mate, it just seems some want to keep looking for issues that simply don't exist.
 
Looks like the hotel got backed into a corner. Statement released as follows.

STATEMENT IN FULL

With regards to the recent Scottish Sun article, The Tudor Hotel would like to share the following statement:

The Tudor Hotel would like to apologise for any offence caused by the recent story published in the Scottish Sun. The incident itself occurred due to an internal misunderstanding over our “no club colours” policy. Consequently we are going through a process of clarifying this policy to our staff, to ensure this type of incident will not reoccur.

The Tudor Hotel would like to highlight that we are in no way against Help For Heroes and believe they provide British Troops with much needed support. In this light we will be in contact with Help For Heroes to see how we can help their great cause. In addition to this we greatly appreciate the work that many charities do and support a number of them in a variety of different ways.

Once again, we sincerely apologise for any offence that may have been caused, and in particular to Mr Thomas who has been treated very unfairly.

We would also like to thank all our customers for past support and continued support and would like to reassure everyone that we will take on board all comments we receive in regards to this matter.
 
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Looks like the hotel got backed into a corner. Statement released as follows. STATEMENT IN FULL With regards to the recent Scottish Sun article, The Tudor Hotel would like to share the following statement: The Tudor Hotel would like to apologise for any offence caused by the recent story published in the Scottish Sun. The incident itself occurred due to an internal misunderstanding over our “no club colours” policy. Consequently we are going through a process of clarifying this policy to our staff, to ensure this type of incident will not reoccur. The Tudor Hotel would like to highlight that we are in no way against Help For Heroes and believe they provide British Troops with much needed support. In this light we will be in contact with Help For Heroes to see how we can help their great cause. In addition to this we greatly appreciate the work that many charities do and support a number of them in a variety of different ways. Once again, we sincerely apologise for any offence that may have been caused, and in particular to Mr Thomas who has been treated very unfairly. We would also like to thank all our customers for past support and continued support and would like to reassure everyone that we will take on board all comments we receive in regards to this matter.
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Business comes first eh ! that boils my blood that does
 
Business does come first absolutely and it's a shame many seen this as a black and white snub for H4H when it clearly wasnt the case.

The Tudor Hotel has hosted events for the military including my Units disbandment function in 1999 when we got disbanded after the SDR, it also hosted the centernary anniversary of the Royal Engineers in Lanarkshire back in 2003, they also hosted our freedom of the burgh parade after functions every 10 years for as far back as I can remember. They are no way anti military or anti H4H, it's quite sad the flack they have got.
 
Val said:
Business does come first absolutely and it's a shame many seen this as a black and white snub for H4H when it clearly wasnt the case.

The Tudor Hotel has hosted events for the military including my Units disbandment function in 1999 when we got disbanded after the SDR, it also hosted the centernary anniversary of the Royal Engineers in Lanarkshire back in 2003, they also hosted our freedom of the burgh parade after functions every 10 years for as far back as I can remember. They are no way anti military or anti H4H, it's quite sad the flack they have got.
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Well put.
 
This whole thread is not a great advert for that region of Scotland. Not the response of the hotel but why the hotel responded as they did and the fact that so many Scots on here are aware of the problem and sympathise with the hotel (as always there are two sides to a story and this is a good example). I was not aware sectarianism was such an issue still in Scotland. Is the problem specific to certain sections eg Glasgow or is it more widespread?
 
Not really much of a story - some Catholics and Protestants in Scotland and Ireland are really stupid people. They hate each other for historical reasons. Evolution will see this squabble consigned eventually but until then, tread carefully with these fanatics as they like a theologically incited ruck.
 
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Snelly said:
Not really much of a story - some Catholics and Protestants in Scotland and Ireland are really stupid people. They hate each other for historical reasons. Evolution will see this squabble consigned eventually but until then, tread carefully with these fanatics as they like a theologically incited ruck.
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Vary true unfortunately.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
This whole thread is not a great advert for that region of Scotland. Not the response of the hotel but why the hotel responded as they did and the fact that so many Scots on here are aware of the problem and sympathise with the hotel (as always there are two sides to a story and this is a good example). I was not aware sectarianism was such an issue still in Scotland. Is the problem specific to certain sections eg Glasgow or is it more widespread?
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The Tudor had a FB page which they had to pull down, lots of silly comments along the lines of I hope they go bust and I bet they are SNP supporters or Celtic fans. It truly is shocking treatment.

West and central belt specific to the problem but it is known in other areas too but mainly the west.
 
Snelly said:
Not really much of a story - some Catholics and Protestants in Scotland and Ireland are really stupid people. They hate each other for historical reasons. Evolution will see this squabble consigned eventually but until then, tread carefully with these fanatics as they like a theologically incited ruck.
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Let me offer an alternative version. Ireland was invaded by the British who took most of the land, killed many of the local people and generally treated the place like crap. Eventually many of the English assimilated with the locals. So the British planted Scots mostly in the North who they knew would never assimilate with the locals. They also enacted laws to persecute the locals. The Scots in the north later prevented independence and created an artificial gerrymandered state in which they treated the Catholics like dirt. The Catholics decided enough was enough and matched for civil rights. The British sent the Army in to protect the Catholics but the NI Parliament turned then against the Catholics. Not surprisingly trouble occurred.
 
Ethan said:
Let me offer an alternative version. Ireland was invaded by the British who took most of the land, killed many of the local people and generally treated the place like crap. Eventually many of the English assimilated with the locals. So the British planted Scots mostly in the North who they knew would never assimilate with the locals. They also enacted laws to persecute the locals. The Scots in the north later prevented independence and created an artificial gerrymandered state in which they treated the Catholics like dirt. The Catholics decided enough was enough and matched for civil rights. The British sent the Army in to protect the Catholics but the NI Parliament turned then against the Catholics. Not surprisingly trouble occurred.
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A pretty good account of the history in a shortened version there Ethan. You do understand however some people won't believe that is what actually happened.
 
Ethan said:
Keep your pity. You need as much as you can get.
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I really don't.


Those that think the top is the problem that needed addressing and not those that would take offence (where none is given),they, they are the ones that need the pity.

So you keep a hold of it, I don't mind giving it to ya. :)






Nice to see the hotel management has offered a full and unreserved apology. :thup:

At least they have realised how ridiculous their actions were. Good to see. Never to late to accept you are in the wrong.
 
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