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Not celebrated to anywhere the same degree that 'National' days of other parts of the Union celebrate theirs! I've always been a bit puzzled as to why, but have contemplated a couple of reasons! Though maybe ALL are simply dwarfed by St Paddy's Day!
 

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Not celebrated to anywhere the same degree that 'National' days of other parts of the Union celebrate theirs! I've always been a bit puzzled as to why, but have contemplated a couple of reasons! Though maybe ALL are simply dwarfed by St Paddy's Day!

I'd say it's because the Far Right have effectively hijacked the cross of St. George, and by extension anything related to it, as the flag of the racist knuckle draggers so people are embarrassed to be associated with it. There's also always been an unwillingness by authority to accept English as a nationality. You can be Irish, Welsh or Scottish but are corrected to British if you put English on forms has been my experience.
 

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Not celebrated to anywhere the same degree that 'National' days of other parts of the Union celebrate theirs! I've always been a bit puzzled as to why, but have contemplated a couple of reasons! Though maybe ALL are simply dwarfed by St Paddy's Day!
I know why it's not been massively celebrated, COZ ITS NOT TODAY 😵
It's next Monday, if you don't believe me pop round to your local church and ask your Pervy vicar.
 

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always wondered why more wasn;t made of it like the other Patron Saints, maybe its because its not really a religious choice as such. Edward iii adopted him during the 100 years war with France as St George was the PS of Warriors... but who knows
 

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Not celebrated to anywhere the same degree that 'National' days of other parts of the Union celebrate theirs! I've always been a bit puzzled as to why, but have contemplated a couple of reasons! Though maybe ALL are simply dwarfed by St Paddy's Day!

It'll always be dwarfed by St Patrick's Day as they have it as a National Bank Holiday, as is St Andrew's Day, strong support is growing for St Davids Day to become the same, possibly only in Wales at first like the other home nations but not across the UK, but we don't seem to be fighting as much to have St Georges Day as one, not sure why!
 

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Not celebrated to anywhere the same degree that 'National' days of other parts of the Union celebrate theirs! I've always been a bit puzzled as to why, but have contemplated a couple of reasons! Though maybe ALL are simply dwarfed by St Paddy's Day!

I don't know anyone who shows the slightest bit interest in St. Andrews Day.
 

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It'll always be dwarfed by St Patrick's Day as they have it as a National Bank Holiday, as is St Andrew's Day, strong support is growing for St Davids Day to become the same, possibly only in Wales at first like the other home nations but not across the UK, but we don't seem to be fighting as much to have St Georges Day as one, not sure why!


Just had a thought maybe St Patricks is so popular is Eire is still a catholic Country where as the other home nations are all mainly protestant, Catholicism still worship Saints to a certain extent where as Prody gave all that up in the Reformation... Maybe, who knows. Perhaps making St George the PS of getting pissed my change how its viewed;)
 

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Just had a thought maybe St Patricks is so popular is Eire is still a catholic Country where as the other home nations are all mainly protestant, Catholicism still worship Saints to a certain extent where as Prody gave all that up in the Reformation... Maybe, who knows. Perhaps making St George the PS of getting pissed my change how its viewed;)

Oi!

Patrick’s the patron saint of Northern Ireland, too! And he spent his mountain living days just outside Ballymena. None of this Eire rubbish!
 

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I know why it's not been massively celebrated, COZ ITS NOT TODAY 😵
It's next Monday, if you don't believe me pop round to your local church and ask your Pervy vicar.

I learnt that this morning.

How would we all feel if our birthday celebrations got changed just because Easter is too close to that day?
 

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Oi!

Patrick’s the patron saint of Northern Ireland, too! And he spent his mountain living days just outside Ballymena. None of this Eire rubbish!

Wasn't he born in the Highlands of Scotland, ventured down to Wales where Monks then took him in and then went to Ireland :unsure:
 

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Not celebrated to anywhere the same degree that 'National' days of other parts of the Union celebrate theirs! I've always been a bit puzzled as to why, but have contemplated a couple of reasons! Though maybe ALL are simply dwarfed by St Paddy's Day!

Think there's a Lot of truth as said by BIM about the hijacking of the Cross of St George by unsavoury characters including the far right and football hooligans. So that could mean that it is difficult to find reasons to celebrate 'Englishness', whatever that means nowadays.

Personally I've never really associated myself as English, can't think of any occasion where I've tried or needed to fill in a form to say my nationality is English, always UK. I'm proud of where I live locally and identify as someone from that area so will do what I can to support local economy, arts, shops, etc. But once you go out of my local area I'm not that bothered and would just as happily say I'm European as I'm English. So St George's day has never been that big a deal to me and to be honest could not name when it is apart from the annual thread in this forum.
 

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I don't understand the term 'hijacking' of the St Georges Cross, it symbolizes England as a country, your not going to take a 'Union' Jack to an England match, especially if Scotland, NI and Wales were lucky enough (or not) to still be in the competition, would you?

I understand the sentiment in reference to the far right, but again the cross represents England and as such if you're going to march or protest (peacefully) as a nationalist, again you're not going to fly the 'Union' Jack or the European flag!
 

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Not celebrated to anywhere the same degree that 'National' days of other parts of the Union celebrate theirs! I've always been a bit puzzled as to why, but have contemplated a couple of reasons! Though maybe ALL are simply dwarfed by St Paddy's Day!

I don't think the Scots and Welsh celebrate their Saint's days any more than the English do to be honest.

Paddy's Day is a big deal because the people behind Guinness made it so, that's all. Good marketing. If an English firm produced a popular and widely-consumed lager/beer/ale, they could easily elevate St George's Day to a similar level with some clever marketing.
 
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I think too many people care too much about patriotism (flags, Saints Days etc).
Who really cares about it being St George's Day - what is the point of it?
 
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