Handicap increase 0.3

[Fader]

Ok so well publicised it was our Club Championship this weeked and surprisingly despite actually playing well I had 2 very poor scores, so missed the buffer and accepted that i'll get the usual 0.1 back for each round and be back playing off 8.2 where I started the year.

What happens instead is I get informed i've actually gone up 0.3 to 8.3! So a little email to the handicap secretary and he in his bizarre world be believes the 0.3 increase for 2 rounds to be correct, despite me pointing out to him 2 rounds at 0.1 = 0.2. He said no the computer calculates it and its correct so it has to stand, and said what does it really matter.

Now maybe I am being petty and squabbling over 0.1 isn't much to him, but for me its a matter of principle. Yes my playing handicap is the same so doesn't matter there, what matters to me is the correct process should be followed for handicaps so meaning it should be 8.2. After all everyone else that had 2 poor rounds looking at the reulsts only got 0.2 back but I got 0.3! I can't even complain to a handicap committee because there isn't one, I've spoken to the pro who said he can't see the issue because its only 0.1 different, and that i'll just have to play better next time to lose the extra 0.1:sbox:

So left feeling even more annoyed at the clubs lack of organisation, and ability to listen to its members!

Sorry for the rant but I needed to vent!:rant:

 

[duncan mackie]

just ask for a copy of your playing record - then deal with the actual error which you will be able to isolate.

for my money I suspect they have run the competition through the system as day1, day2 and an additional 2 day competition...

 

[Whee]

You'd soon be getting stick if you were originally at 8.2 and ended up back at 8.5 because of the 0.3 increase and won your next club comp by a shot.

 

[Whee]

just ask for a copy of your playing record - then deal with the actual error which you will be able to isolate.

for my money I suspect they have run the competition through the system as day1, day2 and an additional 2 day competition...

Wouldn't that mean everybody outside buffer getting back 0.3 though? From Fader's post, it looks liek he's the only one penalised by the extra 0.1

 

[mikee247]

I would suggest that you contact him again and ask for an explanation regardless of what you secretary or computer does/thinks it is CONGU rules that suggest a .1 increase per round if classed as a qualifier. If he has increased you via another reason then he needs to tell you why.... as far as I know any how.

 

[duncan mackie]

Wouldn't that mean everybody outside buffer getting back 0.3 though? From Fader's post, it looks liek he's the only one penalised by the extra 0.1

yes it would, and how do we know that he was the only one?

having just looked at their last 10 competition results and selected some players to map through, there's more going on that meets the eye!

for example, there's one player who played in the previously posted competition but not the championships but has gone up 0.1 since. Now he could have played an open...or something's more complex is going on

without a copy of a full handicap record it's impossible to do other than speculate - so I picked the most recent and likely issue.

 

[Fader]

just ask for a copy of your playing record - then deal with the actual error which you will be able to isolate.

for my money I suspect they have run the competition through the system as day1, day2 and an additional 2 day competition...

This was my initial though when I saw it as well, but when I went through the results and resulting handicaps and mine was the only one I saw at first glance to have the 0.3 increase. Will have to have another look to confirm that though.

 

[Foxholer]

just ask for a copy of your playing record - then deal with the actual error which you will be able to isolate.

for my money I suspect they have run the competition through the system as day1, day2 and an additional 2 day competition...

Asking for a copy of your playing record is absolutely the right thing to do.

The Computer normally get's it right. Certainly a lot more often than the idiot entering the details!

I wouldn't speculate on why though. If it really is only you, I don't see Duncan's suggestion being the cause. Maybe a forgotten comp/Supplementary?

Wrong attitudes by Pro and H'cap Sec'y though!

 

[DCB]

just ask for a copy of your playing record - then deal with the actual error which you will be able to isolate.

for my money I suspect they have run the competition through the system as day1, day2 and an additional 2 day competition...

+1 Simple solution really.

 

[brendy]

As above, get in touch and ask for a copy.

Also, if they refuse to remove the additional .1, ask for a cuddly toy from the top row as that really is a bit of a circus if they cant get the basics correct.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Definitely need a copy of your playing record but it is a disappointing response from the h'cap secretary, surely a man in his position would want to understand why this has happened? I know I would.

 

[duncan mackie]

This was my initial though when I saw it as well, but when I went through the results and resulting handicaps and mine was the only one I saw at first glance to have the 0.3 increase. Will have to have another look to confirm that though.

looking again, more specifically around the CC, I don't see the appropriate correlations to support that theory.

this brings in the 'missing competition' theory. No chance you played a Q comp since the 4th May that's not appearing on the HDID competition list? There have certainly been issues with comps not appearing over the last few months.

anyhow, just get a copy of your record and let us know at some point!

 

[patricks148]

Hard cheese old boy...

i shot 100 last weekend and didn't go up 0.1

 

[Fader]

Ok so have just sent an email asking for a copy of the playing record, see what happens when I eventually get a response.

the points on forgotton comp/supplementary are a no go as i've not put any supplementary cards in, and have only played 3 comps including the club champs.

I guess I'll just have to wait and see but its another case of poor management and attitude towards members unless your part of the in crowd.

 

[Fader]

looking again, more specifically around the CC, I don't see the appropriate correlations to support that theory.

this brings in the 'missing competition' theory. No chance you played a Q comp since the 4th May that's not appearing on the HDID competition list? There have certainly been issues with comps not appearing over the last few months. anyhow, just get a copy of your record and let us know at some point!

No chance at all, I was away at the end of May when the only comp I could have played was on so didn't play that. Then on the subsequent Saturdays of other comps I've been working them all so only played in 3 actual comp rounds at the club this year and that includes the Saturday and Sunday rounds of the club champs.

The only other comp round i've played was at an away course and I got cut 0.2 for that one.

Not put in any supplementary cards either, but there is a lack of comps appearing on HDID compared to what actually happen at the club itself. Plus there seems to be some names missing from the club champs results that I know I saw out there playing. I'll just have to wait and see.



But I'll have to wait and see

 

[Foxholer]

Definitely need a copy of your playing record but it is a disappointing response from the h'cap secretary, surely a man in his position would want to understand why this has happened? I know I would.

Probably not his main role at the club - in his mind at least. Just the one that consumes most of his time!

 

[CMAC]

As above, get in touch and ask for a copy.

Also, if they refuse to remove the additional .1, ask for a cuddly toy from the top row as that really is a bit of a circus if they cant get the basics correct.

haha I like that, going to use it :thup:

 

[chrisd]

to answer the original question.

No you are not being petty about a .1 increase. Handicaps are hard earned and they should always be correct. I find it totally outrageous that the Secretary doesn't see to sort out the matter.

A year ago I had a big row with the club captain over a .1 increase and eventually involved the EGU as he wouldn't see sense and deal properly with a wrongly added .1 that would have seen me play all winter on a higher handicap, eventually it got sorted.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Probably not his main role at the club - in his mind at least. Just the one that consumes most of his time!

Then you have to ask the question why is he doing it.

 

[Foxholer]

Then you have to ask the question why is he doing it.

Probably because he's paid to! Or at least part of the job he's paid to do!