Handicap Changes: CSS v Stableford

[BrizoH71]

Last Saturday, off 21 (21.1 exact), I played in a comp at my club. I shot nett 68 against par 70. I expected a 0.8 cut as a result due to the difference between my nett score and the CSS, which I expected to be 70 also.

The CSS was returned as 69, and yet I got a 1.1 cut in HDID to 20 exact; looking at the noticeboard today I saw that my handicap has been subject to a stableford score adjustment. My stableford points total for Saturday was 26/14 = 40 total.

Today I played in another comp, also at my own club. I wasn't so good today, shooting nett 70, which all things considered was a decent return. When I left, the estimated CSS was 70, and I don't think it will change. Today I scored 22/14 = 36 total.

I was wondering then how stableford adjustment worked vs course CSS?

 

[pbrown7582]

Did you have any blow out holes that would of been trimmed to nett double bogeys?
Or have you been on a run of form to trigger a ESR?

 

[BrizoH71]

No run of form to speak of prior to last Saturday, best competition round had been up until that point 94.

Last Saturday, I only had 2 real blow-out holes - a 7 on a par-3, and going one worse on a par-4, both on the back nine.
Today, only 1 blow-out, a 7 on a par-4 - again on the back nine.

 

[pbrown7582]

Depending on the SI for the 2 holes the 7 could of been made a 6 and the 8 a 7 meaning you were nett 66 -3 meaning 2x 0.4 and a 0.3 cut totalling your 1.1.

Well played! :thup:

 

[BrizoH71]

Cheers! :thup:

Sadly, the big numbers came at 2 of the easiest holes on the course , the 12th (SI 17) and 13th (SI 14). Today's biggie also came at the 13th, which is fast becoming a bogey hole for me.

Still, I did birdie the par-5 9th (first time for that!) and parred the tough uphill 14th (SI 2) - first time I've done that as well, as well as parring the par-5 18th as well to add to other pars on the 1st and 8th, so not all bad.

Thanks for the explanation too, I had wondered why the cut was so big, when I wasn't expecting such.

 

[pbrown7582]

Definite rounding, the only reason the shots wouldn't of been taken off were if the holes were SI 1,2 or 3 in your scenario as they would of been nett doubles already, the stable ford adjustment note is because of the rounding.

 

[Foxholer]

Stableford adjustment reduces any large numbers to a net double bogey - zero points Stableford.

If you are used to scoring in Stableford, then 38 points or more will guarantee you a cut - as CSS can reduce by 1 = 47 points at your place (Par 70, SSS 70).

Your 1.1 came from being 3 better than the 37 points (effectively) 2 of 0.4 as you ere Cat 4, then 1 of 0.3 as the first 2 put into that Cat.

 

[duncan mackie]

Cheers! :thup:

Sadly, the big numbers came at 2 of the easiest holes on the course , the 12th (SI 17) and 13th (SI 14). Today's biggie also came at the 13th, which is fast becoming a bogey hole for me.

indeed your 7 at the par 3 12th, and 8 at the par 4 13th will both get a stableford adjustment of -1, so for handicapping, you have a 68-2=66 against 69 = net differential of 3 as happened

it's much easier to simply translate a medal card you have some 'large scores' on to stableford, as you did. par 70/CSS69 makes for a target of 37 points=CSS 40-37 gives you (fortunately!) the same -3 differential.

great round!