macca64
Q-School Graduate
Just got my h/c 20.0,never been that high before got some work to do!!
h/c at new club
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rosecott
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Why? What history have you got?
macca64
Q-School Graduate
been at 3 previous clubs highest was 15,this is my last club though.
rosecott
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I am known as as a handicap cynic. If this is your highest ever handicap, does your club know chapter and verse of your playing/handicap history? - dates of leaving/handicap level etc.?
I would need to be persuaded that your highest handicap ever at your fourth (and final) club was appropriate - but then I'm a cynic.
When did you leave your last club? Have you told your handicap secretary about your playing history?
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
Seems to be a recurring theme new club higher handicap?
Are handicap secs just taking 3 new cards and ignoring past history?
Are handicap secs just taking 3 new cards and ignoring past history?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
It would probably happen like that at mine.....
If I hadn't handed over a 3 week old handicap certificate I shudder to think what I could have got away with....
If I hadn't handed over a 3 week old handicap certificate I shudder to think what I could have got away with....
OldMate
Head Pro
I recently got mine. Disclosed my Australian handicap (7) put my cards in (huge range - best was to 9 worst to 25) and put on 7 here, which is fair although I probably could use 2-3 extra shots while adapting especially now that I've entered a matchplay comp. Interesting to think what I could have got away with if I hadn't disclosed my history especially when handing in a card to 25 first up.
RGDave
Money List Winner
I'm pleased for you.
It's a bit of a worry you were off 15 at some point before, but I say better that way than the other.
I say this from bitter experience. I got 11.5 with "previous" when my cards should have put me off 15. I was assured it would go up (or down) to the correct level in time.
Well, that was 4 years ago.
I am Mr Buffer.
It strikes me as 100% bonkers that I've never played to 10 (say) in a Medal, and yet folks off 18 can get 44 points and still play off more than me.
If you're good for 15, you'll get down.
It's a bit of a worry you were off 15 at some point before, but I say better that way than the other.
I say this from bitter experience. I got 11.5 with "previous" when my cards should have put me off 15. I was assured it would go up (or down) to the correct level in time.
Well, that was 4 years ago.
I am Mr Buffer.
It strikes me as 100% bonkers that I've never played to 10 (say) in a Medal, and yet folks off 18 can get 44 points and still play off more than me.
If you're good for 15, you'll get down.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
i dont see a problem with this at all. if i joined a shorter course i could quite easily play off less than 12/11 which im currently stuck on. although i would struggle to play to much less than this at the longer courses.
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
isnt this where SSS comes into play? where a supposed easier course has a SSS less than par and harder one greater than par to try and even things out a bit.
golfsaint
Q-School Graduate
i have a low handicap at a short course , what happens when you change clubs and play on a big course? does the handicap go with you ? , i have noticed the club i might join is not on masterscore board, so how do they work it out?
pbrown7582
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Handicaps are supposed to transfer from one club to another should you leave one and joint another within 6 months I believe there is no change to status either? (sure one of the more knowledgable guys will confirm or say I'm talking poppycock! 
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)duncan mackie
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Handicaps are supposed to transfer from one club to another should you leave one and joint another within 6 months I believe there is no change to status either? (sure one of the more knowledgable guys will confirm or say I'm talking poppycock!
you are correct
however (the polite form of 'but') there is no doubt that in the case of a significant change in the nature of the courses (say going from a 7000yd open par 72/css73 to a tree lined 5500 - 68/68) there is scope for a difference in an individual players ability to score on the new course; the obvious one being a senior golfer who's straight but distance limited.
For such reasons the prudent H'cap sec will look at 3 cards, existing handicap records and consider the possibility of the above when allocating a new handicap.
The default situation should be the previous handicap if held with 6 months of joining though - and an increase over that based soley on 3 submitted cards would be surprising (to me as well as any cynics out there
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rosecott
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There is no working out - your handicap travels with you. Remember, however, that "playing to handicap" is your course SSS plus your handicap. So, if your course SSS is, say, 68 and you are off 8, you will "play to handicap" if you shoot 76. If you move to your new course and it has a 74 SSS, you will "play to handicap" if you shoot 82.
Did your handicap really go from 28 to 7 since last September?
golfsaint
Q-School Graduate
Yes i did really go from 28 to 7 ! well 7.4 ,
but that is on a relatively short course , so i am going to try the longer ones ! , did Meon Valley last friday in 12 over the course , so getting there .
but that is on a relatively short course , so i am going to try the longer ones ! , did Meon Valley last friday in 12 over the course , so getting there .
rosecott
Money List Winner
Hmm.
Allocated 11.5, sig still shows 11.5, self-proclaimed Mr Buffer.
Looks like they got it spot on.
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
you are correct
however (the polite form of 'but') there is no doubt that in the case of a significant change in the nature of the courses (say going from a 7000yd open par 72/css73 to a tree lined 5500 - 68/68) there is scope for a difference in an individual players ability to score on the new course; the obvious one being a senior golfer who's straight but distance limited.
For such reasons the prudent H'cap sec will look at 3 cards, existing handicap records and consider the possibility of the above when allocating a new handicap.
The default situation should be the previous handicap if held with 6 months of joining though - and an increase over that based soley on 3 submitted cards would be surprising (to me as well as any cynics out there
Thanks I knew there would be acceptions but taking the forum as a rough snap shoot there seems to be an awful lot of people moving clubs and getting new improved handicaps at least 3 in last 2 weeks doesn't seem correct? I assume the will have a new CDH number with England golf or somebody there's going to busy chasing people up!
RGDave
Money List Winner
Ah, yes, one could argue that. However, the figure would still be the same if they'd made it 12.5 or maybe even 13.5. Consistency is not a crime. Grinding out 34 or 35 points week after week isn't much fun. I could "throw in the towel" every game with 4 holes to go and go up 0.1 a week for 3 months. That would put me off 12.7 (13) and still only turn my 34 or 35 points into 36. Not enough to come down, not enough to win.
and yet, there are players at mine who come in off 14/16/18, have scored under par net/points, get cut and then go back up over the next few months. Who's better - someone off 12 who never plays to it, or someone off 16 who makes 40 points now and again? I'd say there's nothing in it....6 of one vs. half a dozen of the other.
Your club handicap should represent your best game without luck or whatever. My best game (around mine) is 13 or 14 over. That's where I should be.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
That's not what the system is set up to represent and, statistically, you are the odd one out in being able to play that consistently to that handicap - it should make you a pretty consistent winner at matchplay and in small group events (way beyond what you should win) but, as you say, the downside it that you are unlikely to win in a larger field as someone will have a good round (rather than the bad one they frequently manage).
