SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I can drive the ball 340yards with a Dunlop Driver.
GPS V Chippers
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Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Ah, a pedant, just what every forum needs, thanks for the correction!
Thanks all for the posts, it seems even on this light hearted thread the Chipper doesn't stack well against the GPS.
Not many saying GPS is a tool for old gits with dodgy depth perception that couln't find their way to a green if it was lined with flashing ProV's & if we don't trust them with the TV remote why let them lose with GPS! (all said in the best possible taste of course)
Maybe it just comes down to defending that which we've forked out the readies for, lest we are thought of as plonkers
GreiginFife
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Wasn't being pedantic Slab, the comparison is apples and oranges. Two bits of kit for totally different purposes.
Apologies if that came across as pedantic that was not the intention.
Apologies if that came across as pedantic that was not the intention.
ScienceBoy
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I am still sure my idea of the belly chipper or the broomhandle chipper... with out without built in GPS and using square grooves... will catch on!
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
No need for apology, was just forum banter in my eyes. The 'V' was simply the headline grabing forum title
Could never been annoyed with a fellow Fifer anyway when there's so many English to take it out on
GreiginFife
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No need for apology, was just forum banter in my eyes. The 'V' was simply the headline grabing forum title
Could never been annoyed with a fellow Fifer anyway when there's so many English to take it out on
You a feefer Slab? whauraboots?
MizunoGreyhound
Challenge Tour Pro
Could never been annoyed with a fellow Fifer anyway when there's so many English to take it out on
Boooo!!!:ears:
Jay1
Head Pro
Not read the whole thread so not sure the consensus here, but I have no issue at all with the chipper. I personally wouldn't use one and think it's a waste of a club in the bag, but have no issue with them as a legitimate club for those that want to use them. Belly and brooms I'm not a fan of though as I don't feel the conform to a "golf swing" as they require a completely different action to that which is required with every other club in the bag, even the evil chipper.
Equally I have no issue with GPS devices, they serve a completely valid purpose and if used correctly actually speed up play. I don't think they will necesarily lower the average golfer's score by a noticeable degree, as we hit too many bad shots, but reassurance of knowing you have the right distance cannot be a bad thing? I use a GPS as I got fed up of buying stroke savers everytime I played a different course. I find the GPS more useful and quicker that a strokesaver courseplanner as well.
As has been said above though, you cannot compare a GPS with a chipper as they are for totally different purposes. Surely a GPS unti/stroke saver is closer to comparing electric/push trolleys?
Equally I have no issue with GPS devices, they serve a completely valid purpose and if used correctly actually speed up play. I don't think they will necesarily lower the average golfer's score by a noticeable degree, as we hit too many bad shots, but reassurance of knowing you have the right distance cannot be a bad thing? I use a GPS as I got fed up of buying stroke savers everytime I played a different course. I find the GPS more useful and quicker that a strokesaver courseplanner as well.
As has been said above though, you cannot compare a GPS with a chipper as they are for totally different purposes. Surely a GPS unti/stroke saver is closer to comparing electric/push trolleys?
Matty
Tour Rookie
I defended the GPS as I've just got myself one.
I don't have a chipper or a belly putter but would defend others wish to use them.
One thing that seems to get forgotten but this months GM reminds us of in the Interview with Miguel Angel Jiminez - golf is supposed to be fun. IMO use whatever kit you like to maximise your enjoyment of the game. If it isn't fun then why are you doing it?!?
I don't have a chipper or a belly putter but would defend others wish to use them.
One thing that seems to get forgotten but this months GM reminds us of in the Interview with Miguel Angel Jiminez - golf is supposed to be fun. IMO use whatever kit you like to maximise your enjoyment of the game. If it isn't fun then why are you doing it?!?
jammag
Challenge Tour Pro
Whilst all of the above equipment are deemed legal although one by local rulings at individual clubs you cannot say any of them are cheating.
Chippers are there as an additional club, same as playing with 4 wedges, 3 5 7 woods, 3 different hybrids, your golf bag is individual and its about setting up youre bag to help you with youre game. To one person a chipper is a waste of a club even though it may cut them down a shot or 2 a round as consistency with it is a lot higher than some other clubs, how ever some people may prefer to have 3-lw so does not have room for a chipper.
Belly/Broomhandle putters- Now this is a difficult one I think it has come too far for the r&a to ban them now, how ever they are mostly anchored but they are only helping the people who can use them or have the correct stroke to help them get the most out of it.
GPS- Now this is a difficult one, gps in the right hands are good. How ever I imagine as little as 10% of users can actually use them properly. In that I mean those that know how far they hit individual clubs and then as well as that actually hitting it that distance. I feel most people feel they can hit it further than they actually can and a gps just shows them to take an extra club. I feel gps in non comp rounds is ok how ever in actual comps I would like to see them banned from use. To me I think it would be good to play the comps like the pros and not use them, if people got yardage books and marked certain yardages I think it would make things a bit more interesting and then its about the golfer weighing up the shot choosing the right club trying to work the distance and then hitting it and finding out if its correct, although the pros have a caddie to work them out they are never going to be 100% accurate on distance.
Plus I dont get why people moan at others for checking their phone on a round yet getting a gps out every 2 mins is different. Both times they are just checking something on a screen.
This is only my opinion on the matter and as they are all legal in a way that is how I would like to see it. What you will find is people will generally defend things they have to the hills and everything else can be cheating or not in the spirit of the game. I have tried a gps in the past and a chipper but not a belly putter.
Chippers are there as an additional club, same as playing with 4 wedges, 3 5 7 woods, 3 different hybrids, your golf bag is individual and its about setting up youre bag to help you with youre game. To one person a chipper is a waste of a club even though it may cut them down a shot or 2 a round as consistency with it is a lot higher than some other clubs, how ever some people may prefer to have 3-lw so does not have room for a chipper.
Belly/Broomhandle putters- Now this is a difficult one I think it has come too far for the r&a to ban them now, how ever they are mostly anchored but they are only helping the people who can use them or have the correct stroke to help them get the most out of it.
GPS- Now this is a difficult one, gps in the right hands are good. How ever I imagine as little as 10% of users can actually use them properly. In that I mean those that know how far they hit individual clubs and then as well as that actually hitting it that distance. I feel most people feel they can hit it further than they actually can and a gps just shows them to take an extra club. I feel gps in non comp rounds is ok how ever in actual comps I would like to see them banned from use. To me I think it would be good to play the comps like the pros and not use them, if people got yardage books and marked certain yardages I think it would make things a bit more interesting and then its about the golfer weighing up the shot choosing the right club trying to work the distance and then hitting it and finding out if its correct, although the pros have a caddie to work them out they are never going to be 100% accurate on distance.
Plus I dont get why people moan at others for checking their phone on a round yet getting a gps out every 2 mins is different. Both times they are just checking something on a screen.
This is only my opinion on the matter and as they are all legal in a way that is how I would like to see it. What you will find is people will generally defend things they have to the hills and everything else can be cheating or not in the spirit of the game. I have tried a gps in the past and a chipper but not a belly putter.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Spent most of my life in and around Dunfermline until 4 months ago when I needed to move for work. Warmer weather & longer hours now although its the same penalty whether I lose a ball in the Firth of Forth or spank one into the Indian Ocean
smange
Journeyman Pro
This Ref. the belly putters
Chippers I just think are a waste of a space in your bag when you have many other clubs already there that can be used to play a similar shot
And GPS is perfectly fine by me, speeds up play and gives no more information than a pro-caddies yardage book
Us Fifers are starting to take over this place:thup:
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Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
The thread wasn't really about the merits of a chipper or GPS, its more about the golf communities reaction to their use where both are legal (and alternatives exist) but one is vilified to a much greater extent than t'other
GreiginFife
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Spent most of my life in and around Dunfermline until 4 months ago when I needed to move for work. Warmer weather & longer hours now although its the same penalty whether I lose a ball in the Firth of Forth or spank one into the Indian Ocean
Ah I see, Crossgates boy myself but moved to the toon 10 years ago. Indian Ocean seems a better place to lose a shot in somehow...
GPS is for lazy people who have no feel for the game of golf,legal yes but I personally think they shouldnt be.
Chippers are very usefull for Links courses and older people or anybody for that matter who find them very beneficial,there`s skill involved to actually use them and they have been about for years.Ridiculous as far as i`m concerned accepting GPS and slagging off a chipper as golfers find them usefull depending on how skillfull there are with it and its only as good as the golfers ability.As for belly putters I personally find them very clumsy,but many players find them beneficial and again they are only as good as the players ability,cant really seen an issue with somebody using one though.
Chippers are very usefull for Links courses and older people or anybody for that matter who find them very beneficial,there`s skill involved to actually use them and they have been about for years.Ridiculous as far as i`m concerned accepting GPS and slagging off a chipper as golfers find them usefull depending on how skillfull there are with it and its only as good as the golfers ability.As for belly putters I personally find them very clumsy,but many players find them beneficial and again they are only as good as the players ability,cant really seen an issue with somebody using one though.
MadAdey
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I have a LW, SW, PW, 7-Iron and a rescue.....what would be the point of taking a chipper when every shot can be played with them.........
I love my GPS though. I have tried using the 150 markers and gauging my distance, then compared it to the GPS, amazing how wrong I am at times.
Belly putters...............not in the spirit of the game, cheating lumps of metal........
I love my GPS though. I have tried using the 150 markers and gauging my distance, then compared it to the GPS, amazing how wrong I am at times.
Belly putters...............not in the spirit of the game, cheating lumps of metal........
rosecott
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Another one here - born and brought up in Kelty, went to the old Beath High.
As a complete aside, I came across "kelty" in the Collins scrabble dictionary:
kelty - "old Scots word for an extra drink imposed on someone not thought to be drinking enough"
I can truthfully state it has never been imposed on me.
GreiginFife
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That would be the old, old Beath then Rosecott, there is a brand new one up Fulford now. I was at the last incarnation with a good few Kelty 'uns
kinhell
Head Pro
Went to the Ryder Cup at Celtic Manor and every 10 yards there was a red dot on the fairway so it was easier for them to calculate yardages. Now that's something I would love at our course.
rosecott
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When you say the old, old I feel old, old - I left in 1956.
