Good job I'm mild mannered.......

[Herbie]

[quote200 yds is a common MAX dist for an awful lot of golfers to hit let alone 220, why is it suddenly assumed they could reach you, by you and them? quote]

Quite a change of tact from the everyone has the potential to hit the ball miles on the how long do you drive thread

In my opinion if someone is only 220 yards away and you go because you don't think you can reach it isn't so much wrong from the perspective of whether you can or can't get there, but totally wrong in terms of etiquette when you are firing towards a guy (playing your last hole anyway so what will a few minutes matter) who hasn't and can't even play his second shot and move on.

I see you are at it again Homer, mixing the irrelevance of other threads to try and score points in another

And you are suggesting that everyone waits for an unknown amount of time before taking a shot after presuming they may not reach someone anyway. They may have gone down a club or two and genuinely made a mistake. The point of this thread is not about presumption or assumption its about a ball being hit close to someone and whether or not it was a deliberate act or dangerous act and should one do something about it? Thats what the OP shows. The same principle applys to long hitters, do you think I would have waited for someone to get way passed the 150 markers on a par 5 before I hit it 365yds when I only get 250 to 260 normally? No I wouldnt, even in a strong back wind I wouldnt bacuse I wouldnt expect that distance at all. Whats happening here is a think tank of negatives ignoring the possibilities with no room for compromise. Golfers are almost encouraged by some to assume every such incident on the course is an assassination attempt rather than an accident or mistake, and based on experience and reactions such as this thread, more people are ready to react with aggression, condemnation and abuse without the benefit of seeing what the other party concerned has to say.

I hope some of you never do Jury service

 

[Herbie]

Ive had enough of this thread except to say....

Golf has its dangers simply because its in the hands of X-number of people with X-number of views, instead of the right one.

If you cant handle the risks dont play the game.

What this thread shows is some golfers are prepared to take offensive, aggressive, even violent action because a ball comes near them and the conclusion has already been jumped to!. Thats what it boils down to, nothing more or less, and nothing more or less than you would excpect in a playground.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

My point being I thought it was a) foolish as it was their last hole and what difference would a few extra minutes have made and b) more importantly whether they clubbed down, topped it or couldn't reach it showed a total disregard to the etiquette of the game by playing before the OP had even had an opportunity to play his second as the green was still in use.

I would hope that most forum members would have had the common courtesy to wait for the group in front to have played away before firing off or has patience and decorum been lost to the get it round as fast as possible mentality

 

[Macster]

HNJ: I was stood in a place where at least half of our Club membership hit their drives to on our 1st. I was there with a 4 wood !
At least 2 of the 4 behind were members, and therefore knew that I was in range and it would be dangerous to play.

This wasnt a case of a 'nailed drive' gone too far and therefore close to me, it was clear case of impatience at having to wait a few moments after I had 'filtered in', following the instructions that were on the Tee for all to see.

I didnt say anything, but maybe I should have done at the time, and that was I was merely asking for, what others would have done.

Cant help feeling that HNJ is just being difficult about this and after an argument ??

 

[KeefG]

Cant help feeling that HNJ is just being difficult about this and after an argument ??

I would say so to be honest, As HJS has already said, I think its reasonable and should be expected that a following group at least waits until the group in front have made their approach shots and well cleared before they attempt to tee off.

Teeing off while the group in front are still at their tee shots is bang out of order IMHO.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Their intentions have nothing to do with it!

Everyone who plays golf knows that if there is just the slightest chance of hitting someone you wait for them to get out of range!

Yes, they should know how far the ball may go, and 200 is not the maximum distance for most golfers.

If a ball comes your way from another hole you expect a shout of fore and accept that this is a risk of golf. But not from the same hole you are playing.

 

[Parmo]

HNJ: I was stood in a place where at least half of our Club membership hit their drives to on our 1st. I was there with a 4 wood !

Yeah itsnt there a thread about this sort????

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I hope some of you never do Jury service

I hope I never do, seems like a right pain in the .........

 

[Macster]

Sorry Parmo, Willy waving not intentional ! (Nothing to wave)

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I have down jury service (twice) - hanging was too good for them

 

[Herbie]

HNJ: I was stood in a place where at least half of our Club membership hit their drives to on our 1st. I was there with a 4 wood !
At least 2 of the 4 behind were members, and therefore knew that I was in range and it would be dangerous to play.

This wasnt a case of a 'nailed drive' gone too far and therefore close to me, it was clear case of impatience at having to wait a few moments after I had 'filtered in', following the instructions that were on the Tee for all to see.

I didnt say anything, but maybe I should have done at the time, and that was I was merely asking for, what others would have done.

Cant help feeling that HNJ is just being difficult about this and after an argument ??

Im not looking for an argument, the aggression in this thread is being shown by those who assume or presume the worst.

Fact is you do not know what was hit, who hit it, why they hit it because you didnt find out. It may well be a deliberate act but it may also have been an accident, you have determined their mind set, their action and conclusion from your perspective alone.

 

[Herbie]

Cant help feeling that HNJ is just being difficult about this and after an argument ??

I would say so to be honest, As HJS has already said, I think its reasonable and should be expected that a following group at least waits until the group in front have made their approach shots and well cleared before they attempt to tee off.

Teeing off while the group in front are still at their tee shots is bang out of order IMHO.

More assumptions there Keef, in the same way you accept the OPs assumptions of the incident

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I have to say HNJ in this instance I concur with Keef. Why is it you don't accept that playing when a guy is clearly in range and unable to play his second shot is irresponsible and poor form. I don't see how this type of behaviour can be defended especially from members who know the course and would realise that the OP is in range. To me it smacks of impatience and rudeness and nothing else.

 

[Herbie]

Their intentions have nothing to do with it!

Everyone who plays golf knows that if there is just the slightest chance of hitting someone you wait for them to get out of range!

Yes, they should know how far the ball may go, and 200 is not the maximum distance for most golfers.

If a ball comes your way from another hole you expect a shout of fore and accept that this is a risk of golf. But not from the same hole you are playing.

The issue is not about a ball from another hole.

I hit a ball in the back wind 365 yds so I would now have to wait till most par 4s are clear greens before teeing off just in case I do it again in a back wind

200 yds is the MAX dist most golfers will hit, do you know how many club members break 200 to 220 driving? Maybe you just mean the 4 ball you play with Oh and the OP backs this up when he says most at the club hit their drives there

 

[KeefG]

Cant help feeling that HNJ is just being difficult about this and after an argument ??

I would say so to be honest, As HJS has already said, I think its reasonable and should be expected that a following group at least waits until the group in front have made their approach shots and well cleared before they attempt to tee off.

Teeing off while the group in front are still at their tee shots is bang out of order IMHO.

More assumptions there Keef, in the same way you accept the OPs assumptions of the incident

Thats just it though HNJ, they're not assumptions are they? If, as the OP states, he was still in range from the tee then the following group were bang out of order for teeing off regardless of any circumstances....there is no defense to that!

 

[KeefG]

200 yds is the MAX dist most golfers will hit

ROFLMFAO

 

[Herbie]

I have to say HNJ in this instance I concur with Keef. Why is it you don't accept that playing when a guy is clearly in range and unable to play his second shot is irresponsible and poor form. I don't see how this type of behaviour can be defended especially from members who know the course and would realise that the OP is in range. To me it smacks of impatience and rudeness and nothing else.

I do accept it Homer, when I see it and when its real, what you and others dont accept is you are falling all over each others assumptions and beliefs and simply will not accept the equally valid possibility that it was a simple mistake.

You really are showing the collective mentality of a lynch mob. I hope the guy who hit that ball was guilty of a deliberate act should he meet you lot.

 

[Herbie]

200 yds is the MAX dist most golfers will hit

ROFLMFAO

Why the inane laugh?
I dont see and have never seen and endless stream of golfers hitting further than that, just check out the endless threads making ref to this throughout this site, especially the SC GPS users. Do you realise how many elderly people play golf and how many elderly women play, I would suggest that number alone would make a majority.
Be a fool all day long for me if you want to.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I'm sorry I just don't see it as a mistake. A guy is down the fairway, I'm a member and played the hole numerous times so know I can get the ball into that sort of area and the guy has yet to play his second shot. Where's the mistake other than being impatient and firing away in frustration or annoyance.

Are we not to take the OP's word that in his mind it was a deliberate act? I wasn't actually supporting any form of retribution (hitting the offending ball back, having an argument etc) so don't feel I fall into the lynch mob mentality. My main beef was the futility of wanting to rush on the last hole of the day (it wasn't raining so getting in and dry/warm can't be an underlying issue) and to disregard common courtesy and etiquette by playing the shot at all.

 

[KeefG]

Your 'assumption' that 'most' golfers hit 200yds max is laughable, that is the reason for the inane laugh!

How many people on the other thread said they hit the ball between 180-200yds max? How many said between 200-220yds? You see where I am going here...

And dont tar all old people with the same brush, I used to play regularly with a 60yo who could and did nail his driver about 220yds on a very very regular basis.

If you're going to pull me & HJS up on assumptions then please dont make your own up as you go along.