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Thanks so much to everyone who has contributed to the previous thread. As initially thought, opinions were very divided and naturally it was an impossible task to create a competition which suited and pleased everyone. However, as getting to this point was very difficult, I'm delighted to announce that entry for the competition is now open.

Shortly, regional co-ordinators will be opening individual threads in the Arrange A Game section. Feel free to enter as many regional qualifiers as you want and ask any questions about each individual regional event there.

If you have any general queries, then post them here or PM me.

In the meantime, thanks again in advance for your participation in this fun event. PLEASE take a few minutes to read the terms and conditions.

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my concern is that full handicap played on shorter winter set up courses favours higher handicaps?

at my club all winter stuff is run as 3/4, even all the roll ups play this too.

if you are playing full course no problem its only on shorter temp winter set ups etc.
 

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my concern is that full handicap played on shorter winter set up courses favours higher handicaps?

at my club all winter stuff is run as 3/4, even all the roll ups play this too.

if you are playing full course no problem its only on shorter temp winter set ups etc.

Think we cross that bridge when we come to it depending on courses. Wont be an issue down here as we don't play on temporary greens / tees but if a region is arranged on a course with those things in place (which I don't think it should be ...) then it should be up to that region's organiser and virtuocity to come up with the best solution.
 

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my concern is that full handicap played on shorter winter set up courses favours higher handicaps?

at my club all winter stuff is run as 3/4, even all the roll ups play this too.

if you are playing full course no problem its only on shorter temp winter set ups etc.

Which is partly why I argued against the end of March deadline for the regionals (which feels just like a nominal date with no real reason). These would be far better played in April/May once the weather is better and courses are at full length etc
 

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Think we cross that bridge when we come to it depending on courses. Wont be an issue down here as we don't play on temporary greens / tees but if a region is arranged on a course with those things in place (which I don't think it should be ...) then it should be up to that region's organiser and virtuocity to come up with the best solution.

Jimbo, i'm sure its not an issue down there as i'm sure you lot will be on normal courses esp if you still get to play medals. North wise i'm sure the courses are going to have been shortened, my own home track is almost 1500 yards shorter on the winter course hence easier.

just making a point;)
 

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Which is partly why I argued against the end of March deadline for the regionals (which feels just like a nominal date with no real reason). These would be far better played in April/May once the weather is better and courses are at full length etc

I reaaaallllly don't think this is a big issue. Just don't book the regional qualifiers on shortened courses? It might work differently in Scotland, and apologies if this is the case, but there are very few courses around here that will be on temp greens and tees at all, let alone in the middle of March.
 

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It shouldn't be that hard to find a course playing to its proper length in March anywhere should it?
 

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I reaaaallllly don't think this is a big issue. Just don't book the regional qualifiers on shortened courses? It might work differently in Scotland, and apologies if this is the case, but there are very few courses around here that will be on temp greens and tees at all, let alone in the middle of March.

Lol, most courses were shut due to snow in March last yr
 

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Why doesnt someone start a poll for when the deadline for regionals should be.......

:D Good shout.

I'm annoyed that I find myself surprised that even after all the hard work that I've done to get this up and running that people would still nit-pick over what are now irrelevances rather than getting on board or plainly ignoring the competition entirely. (not a dig at you mate, I got the joke!).
 

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most places up here go back to full course end of March and sometimes easter depending when that is.

Last March (first week) when I went up to play Muirfield most courses in that area were on full tees and course etc because I enquired before I booked a round at any of the courses.

You will find somewhere with full course on if you try hard enough imo.
 

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:D Good shout.

I'm annoyed that I find myself surprised that even after all the hard work that I've done to get this up and running that people would still nit-pick over what are now irrelevances rather than getting on board or plainly ignoring the competition entirely. (not a dig at you mate, I got the joke!).

Why do you assume people are nitpitcking, take it as it is meant to be with people tyring to help and improve a concept. Probably easiest if I just ignore and let you do as you please
 

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Why do you assume people are nitpitcking, take it as it is meant to be with people tyring to help and improve a concept. Probably easiest if I just ignore and let you do as you please

There was a thread previously with near on 5,000 views and 200 replies. That was the time to air views and I took all of these on board. I have been very consistent in acknowledging at every available moment that it is impossible to please everyone. I was also very consistent in saying that if anyone else wanted to run things, then I'd be delighted to let them do that. Lots of people were kind enough to PM me to get involved, but not run things.

In my opinion, it's not possible to organise 7 regional events, collection of entry fees, collection of deposits, arranging prizes and a National forum meet (final) without some degree of autocracy. I have been open minded and as accommodating as possible.

However, now everything is GOOD TO GO. The competition has launched, i.e. already started. It won't be perfect- it's in its inaugural year and only time will tell if this event becomes a tradition and improved upon, but I believe that instead of questioning WHY things are being run the way they are, it's best to get involved and make the current arrangements the best competition it can be.
 

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Do low handicap players EVER stop moaning?

If there is a south west or midlands qualifier within striking distance I'm in.
Well done Virtuocity, this thing will be a ball ache to organise, thanks for sorting it.
 

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Why do you assume people are nitpitcking, take it as it is meant to be with people tyring to help and improve a concept. Probably easiest if I just ignore and let you do as you please


Organising an event to suit everyone is impossible,there will always be people that think they
can do a better job than the person that's actually doing something.
You can never guarantee the weather in this country whatever the season.
However someone has to make a decision otherwise it will carry on going around in circles.
This could be a good event if well supported by the members of the forum,great bragging rights,
and the opportunity to meet new members.
If anyone cant make the dates that's unfortunate,but whatever the time of year there will be
someone that misses out.
Im all for debate,but surely when it comes down to it you have to go with the majority.
 
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