Gerrard, Scholes or Lampard. Who was best?

Who was best?

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Liverbirdie said:
You've all been got at by the Man U obsessed media.

Do neutrals think lpool would have won more with scholes, likewise Man U less with gerrard?f

btw, I'd have had scholes in 2nd place above lampardeflection!!!!!!!!
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They are different players, so i dont think you can compare the difference. UTD werent a (poor) team so he wouldnt have been needed to be roy of the rover. I think that aspect added to his game. Likewise Scholes is more composed so on the occassions Gerrard dragged you through, he may have kept everyone calm and therefor not needed to run around so hecticly.
 
Liverbirdie said:
You've all been got at by the Man U obsessed media.

Do neutrals think lpool would have won more with scholes, likewise Man U less with gerrard?f

btw, I'd have had scholes in 2nd place above lampardeflection!!!!!!!!
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I'm not a Utd fan, preferring Liverpool, but would still put Scholes ahead of Gerrard. I think Liverpool would have won more as Scholes was better at breaking down attacks. Liverpool played really good football but I don't think Liverpool have had a league winning defence for quite a while.
 
Papas1982 said:
They are different players, so i dont think you can compare the difference. UTD werent a (poor) team so he wouldnt have been needed to be roy of the rover. I think that aspect added to his game. Likewise Scholes is more composed so on the occassions Gerrard dragged you through, he may have kept everyone calm and therefor not needed to run around so hecticly.
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they were all attacking midfielders, so can still be comparable. Gerrard had everything in a player. Good engine, strong, quick, could beat a man, defend, pass, head a ball, spray a pass and keep it simple.

The others had 2-3 great facets, but weren't as all round as Gerard.
 
Hobbit said:
I'm not a Utd fan, preferring Liverpool, but would still put Scholes ahead of Gerrard. I think Liverpool would have won more as Scholes was better at breaking down attacks. Liverpool played really good football but I don't think Liverpool have had a league winning defence for quite a while.
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Bri, the way Scholes broke down attacks was to foul people. EVen Roy Keane admitted it. IF Scholes would have played in any other shirt, he,d have had 30 red cards.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Bri, the way Scholes broke down attacks was to foul people. EVen Roy Keane admitted it. IF Scholes would have played in any other shirt, he,d have had 30 red cards.
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I think you may have borrowed Phil's Anfield goggles.

Yes Scholes fouled a lot of people but Gerrard was at times dirty and nasty. Strangely many that I have spoken to say exactly the same about Gerrard that you have said about Scholes.

If someone like Savage had committed some of the fouls that Gerrard did he would have received a straight red.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Bri, the way Scholes broke down attacks was to foul people. EVen Roy Keane admitted it. IF Scholes would have played in any other shirt, he,d have had 30 red cards.
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Scholes wasn't averse to leaving the boot in but Gerrard wasn't very far behind him in that. Gerrard took plenty for the team.
 
MetalMickie said:
I think you may have borrowed Phil's Anfield goggles.

Yes Scholes fouled a lot of people but Gerrard was at times dirty and nasty. Strangely many that I have spoken to say exactly the same about Gerrard that you have said about Scholes.

If someone like Savage had committed some of the fouls that Gerrard did he would have received a straight red.
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well mickie, having probably seen 3/4 of Gerrards games live, know how good he was. He did go through a spell in his early twenties when he had a bad 3 months, when he was playing too many Hollywood balls. But over his whole career was immense.

4 people imho have had better protection from refs than everyone else. Terry, Gerard, Rooney but most of all Scholes. The first 3 mainly for dissent, Scholes for number and nastiness of tackles. GErrard could also do his share.

Lampard was the best goal scorer, and least dirty, but still the third best player.
 
Liverbirdie said:
they were all attacking midfielders, so can still be comparable. Gerrard had everything in a player. Good engine, strong, quick, could beat a man, defend, pass, head a ball, spray a pass and keep it simple.

The others had 2-3 great facets, but weren't as all round as Gerard.
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I'm opinion, as an attacking midfielder, if thats how we judge them, then engine defend, head aren't key areas. I feel Scholes had a better shot, pass and vision than gerrard. On footy manager yeah id give gerrard a higher score as he's comfortbaly above 7 on EVERYTHING, but if i was picking one to play as the attacking fulcrum in a team that doesnt need someone running everywhere, then i'd choose Scholes.

For liverpool, Gerrard was a perfect fit. But at utd, with keane, did he need to defend? With beckham did he need to go wide? With neville did he need to track back and cover a wing?
 
Liverbirdie said:
well mickie, having probably seen 3/4 of Gerrards games live, know how good he was. He did go through a spell in his early twenties when he had a bad 3 months, when he was playing too many Hollywood balls. But over his whole career was immense.

4 people imho have had better protection from refs than everyone else. Terry, Gerard, Rooney but most of all Scholes. The first 3 mainly for dissent, Scholes for number and nastiness of tackles. GErrard could also do his share.

Lampard was the best goal scorer, and least dirty, but still the third best player.
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Certainly would not question the ability of any of the three.

Each had different styles and it is, therefore, impossible to decide which was the best.

Lampard was the most effective of the three from a purely attacking/goal-scoring point of view.

Scholes the best distributor of the ball.

Gerrard more of a box to box player and the best in that role since Bryan Robson.

Obviously the above is somewhat of a simplification as each had great attributes in other areas but from this you can perhaps see why I could never understand the difficulty in accommodating both Gerrard and Lampard in the England team.

They fulfilled different roles.
 
Gerard.... self obsessed glory merchant who could only kick the ball very hard a long way hence his penchant for firing missile like 60 yards crossfield balls or 30 yards passes hammered into the feet of some poor sod who hadn't a hope in hell of controlling the ball.

Scholes... cost England their place in the 1992 World Cup because he couldn't tackle worth a damn. Midfielder? Can't tackle? Not worth having.

Lombard..... dependable, consistent, unflashy....team player.

Don't support any of the three clubs.
 
BesCumber said:
I don't profess to being an expert but even i can work out this is crap.
Go on take a wild guess as to why. :p
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Yep.

When you have undeniably 2 of the best midfielders of the modern era (Pirlo and Xavi) wax lyrical about Scholes you know that he was a bit special.

"Speaking ahead of the Champions League final, Juventus midfielder Andrea Pirlo said: “I have been so fortunate to have played with so many incredible players throughout my career, but if I could pick one that I never got the chance to play with, it would be Paul Scholes.

“One of the all-time greats. A genius on the field, but private - no circus around him off it. I have a lot of respect for him.”


The two were first on opposing teams in United's Champions League winning campaign in 1999 when the Reds played Inter. They have played each other a number of times since Pirlo switched to AC Milan.

Barcelona midfielder Xavi has famously been a great admirer of Scholes' football.

"In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen - the most complete - is Scholes," he said in 2011. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything.

"He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more." "
 
Pin-seeker said:
Yeah it must have been so hard for him playing alongside Alonso,Torres,Suarez,Mascharano,Carragher,Garcia,Fowler,Owen & Joe Allen.
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They were mixed in amongst crap. United and Chelsea had much better sides.

Do you ever comment without trying to be a smarta**e? No wonder no one likes you.
 
The best and most consistent box to box midfielder I saw at old Trafford over the years was Steven Gerrard. However, Scholes was more skilful and had the creativity to play the pass that others can't. They both had similar goal scoring records so it's horses for courses on that front. Both players were equally as bad in the tackle and got away with a lot. I wouldn't say one got away with more than the other. Of the 3, Lampard handled himself the best on the field and his goal scoring record is superb also.

Out of the 3, I'd have to pick Scholes because of my allegiance to the team me and my family have supported for generations, I also think he could do that one piece of magic to change a game that the other 2 couldn't. That said, Chelsea and Liverpool fans would say the same about the other two as they have probably seen them play the same amount of times I've seen scholes.

Tbh, Given fans dedication and love for their team, it's a discussion that could go on for hours and hours as no one would change their mind about their choice....
 
nickjdavis said:
Gerard.... self obsessed glory merchant who could only kick the ball very hard a long way hence his penchant for firing missile like 60 yards crossfield balls or 30 yards passes hammered into the feet of some poor sod who hadn't a hope in hell of controlling the ball.

Scholes... cost England their place in the 1992 World Cup because he couldn't tackle worth a damn. Midfielder? Can't tackle? Not worth having.

Lombard..... dependable, consistent, unflashy....team player.

Don't support any of the three clubs.
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Can someone turn off the utter tosh alarm.
 
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