What is true is that there are waaay to many folk playing clubs that are just not suited for their 3 handicap or above game whether that be Mizuno,Titliest,TM's etc....(not Pings tho). 
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feary
Challenge Tour Pro
What an idiot just because you play off 3 or less doesn't make you a supreme ball striker. I know a lot of low handicappers, including myself, that make their shots up with wedges and putting. Also what's to say that a person can't be off 10, strike a mean ball and have a poor short game. If you want to use the MP range, use it!
sweatysock41
Q-School Graduate
A la Garcia no doubt. You're spot on - you can strike a ball superbly - doesn't mean to say you can putt. Handicaps are based on the whole game not just how you hit your irons.
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thecraw
Guest
Bottom line is Mizuno are a better players club, as are most blade style irons.
I play off of 5 and had a custom fitted set of MP60's and hated them, they looked beautiful and were sexy when flushed but bottom line I felt that I was not good enough or consistant enough to get the best from them.
I'm not agreeing with what the guy says but I think he has a point to an extent. I also think Dodger is bang on the money with his comment! And even if he is fishing he's correct.
I play off of 5 and had a custom fitted set of MP60's and hated them, they looked beautiful and were sexy when flushed but bottom line I felt that I was not good enough or consistant enough to get the best from them.
I'm not agreeing with what the guy says but I think he has a point to an extent. I also think Dodger is bang on the money with his comment! And even if he is fishing he's correct.
Wasn't fishing.......I stated a fact.
Whilst there may be an element of truth in the more bladed models (MP68 and 63) it isn't true of the 58 and 53 and certainly not the JPX range. It would be commercial suicide to mass produce for such a small market. I think the OP has green eyed envy and clearly has tried them and failed to hit them well. If you are that desperate geezer learn to the swing the club better.
bozza
Journeyman Pro
I'd rather play an iron that was maybe suited to better golfers than me and work on my ball striking than have an iron that lets me get away with too much and cover up my bad shots and think i'm striking the ball better than i actually am.
ScienceBoy
Money List Winner
The difference between the clubs I have now and the clubs I used to have is vast. When I am swinging well I get a lot more out of my Mizunos in every department. I think I could play well with any club brand but I chose these as I believe I have a good enough iron swing to hit them, I like the styling and I feel they are well suited to my game.
If I can hit a 70+ year old W.H. Davies 2 iron (I have most of a full set, see the 8 iron here) off the deck with ease then I can hit my 2 year old 2nd hand mizunos just as well.
If I can hit a 70+ year old W.H. Davies 2 iron (I have most of a full set, see the 8 iron here) off the deck with ease then I can hit my 2 year old 2nd hand mizunos just as well.
richart
Major Champion
Are they still under warranty, as it looks like they are starting to rust ?
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Are they still under warranty, as it looks like they are starting to rust ?
The logo makes them look like they were given away when filling up with petrol
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
And as for the original quote...
Bollox +1
Bollox +1
beggsy
Journeyman Pro
i was a 19 handicapper last year now off ten only had my mp-58s a few weeks and shot my two lowest ever scores with them a 75, 6 over and a 71, 2 over so cant be that bad can they for a above 3 handicap
EZprophet
Head Pro
This would only be true under the assumption that all golfers buy the best suited clubs for their ability. Which is almost certainly miles away from the truth.
The guy who wrote that post is clearly an idiot but to be honest hes probably not far off in his main point.
Purely in terms of scoring I would probably be better off with more forgiving iron (ts not like my distance control is precise enough to be worrying about consistency on center hits and while I do need to "work the ball" every once in a while, 98% of the time I'm just trying to hit it straight!) BUT that would only be true if you could make one that looked and felt exactly the same as my Titleist CBs.
When I look down at those beauties they just fill me with confidence (even if it is false!) When I look down at shovels like the AP2's I just feel like a hacker... That tinny feeling when I strike them aswell just makes me think that the club is broken or something.
If there is one thing I know to be true about golf, its that the game is 90% mental and confidence is everything. If Mizuno irons make you feel confident, then they are going to save you way more shots than a more forgiving club that doesn't.
Also, this is all under the assumption that the sole aim of everyone who plays golf is to score theyre absolute best at all costs. I'm pretty sure that while everyone obviously wants to score theyre best, they also want to enjoy themselves as much as they can. For some people, the feeling of puring a Mizuno blade 4 iron and watching it nestle up to the pin in the distance can achieve that as much as a low score can.
DCB
Well-known member
That was an interesting little exercise. I'll put my big wooden spoon away now
Anyway, I tend to agree with some of the sentiments expressed in the original quotation, but, each to their own.
That's what makes us so passionate about this game
Anyway, I tend to agree with some of the sentiments expressed in the original quotation, but, each to their own.
That's what makes us so passionate about this game
Parmo
Tour Winner
You would be off scratch playing Ping S56's
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
I've played Mizuno irons for nearly 15 years. TP21s then MP30s. So all the great shots and all the great rounds I've played have been my imagination? I don't think I ever hit a bad shot or played a bad round because I had the wrong type or make of club in my hands.
People should stop being obsessed with gear. Of course having clubs that suit you makes a difference but not as much as having the right technique and mental approach.
People should stop being obsessed with gear. Of course having clubs that suit you makes a difference but not as much as having the right technique and mental approach.
haplesshacker
Money List Winner
So the author of the quoted op thinks that Mizunos should only be played by very low h'cappers. And that Mizuno can't make GI or SGI clubs and 'sell' to the masses on feel.
Twaddle.
MX17, MX19, MX100, MX1000, and that's just for starters. Hardly gorgeous, difficult blades are they.
Every brand has it's clubs that are designed to be easy to hit and some that require a better quality of strike. Not sure why attack Mizuno for the reasons stated in the op.
Yes, I agree that perhaps some of us do play with irons that are better suited to a better player than we currently are. But that's our free choice.
But of course. I might be just slightly biased!
Twaddle.
MX17, MX19, MX100, MX1000, and that's just for starters. Hardly gorgeous, difficult blades are they.
Every brand has it's clubs that are designed to be easy to hit and some that require a better quality of strike. Not sure why attack Mizuno for the reasons stated in the op.
Yes, I agree that perhaps some of us do play with irons that are better suited to a better player than we currently are. But that's our free choice.
But of course. I might be just slightly biased!
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thecraw
Guest
That my friend is called new club syndrome!
Philm
Challenge Tour Pro
yeah i agree with above, ive only played about 2years now and had membership less that 1yr and i play mizunos.
infact ive had two sets, neither of which are hard to hit, the mx100 and now the mx200.
im actually getting better and better with my ball striking and i think that comes alittle from the better feedback from mishits with the mx200s.
so not all mizunos are blades or hard to hit.
Phil
infact ive had two sets, neither of which are hard to hit, the mx100 and now the mx200.
im actually getting better and better with my ball striking and i think that comes alittle from the better feedback from mishits with the mx200s.
so not all mizunos are blades or hard to hit.
Phil
Robobum
Money List Winner
Are any of us truly playing clubs that are THE BEST suited to our games??
If I had the time, inclination and money to try enough different irons I'm pretty positive that I'd end up with a totally different set up of irons than I have now.
Woods are the only clubs that we try and, possibly, get fitted for individually. We don't [normally] hit 20 balls with the 3wood then say "okay, I'll take that and a driver and a 5wood as well".
With the irons we will invariably hit the 6 or 7 iron to death on the range and then buy a set including about 7 other clubs that we haven't even tested.
The idea of the Nike pro combo is, IMO, what we should all be doing and, maybe, even taking it a step further. I've never hit a 4 iron better (longer or straighter) than my old Ping eye2. I may be better served with a "chunkier" 5 iron or 6 iron.
My current 9 iron and PW (MP 60)are more accurate and consistant than any other I've tried, not the longest but distance is very consistant.
If I had the time, inclination and money to try enough different irons I'm pretty positive that I'd end up with a totally different set up of irons than I have now.
Woods are the only clubs that we try and, possibly, get fitted for individually. We don't [normally] hit 20 balls with the 3wood then say "okay, I'll take that and a driver and a 5wood as well".
With the irons we will invariably hit the 6 or 7 iron to death on the range and then buy a set including about 7 other clubs that we haven't even tested.
The idea of the Nike pro combo is, IMO, what we should all be doing and, maybe, even taking it a step further. I've never hit a 4 iron better (longer or straighter) than my old Ping eye2. I may be better served with a "chunkier" 5 iron or 6 iron.
My current 9 iron and PW (MP 60)are more accurate and consistant than any other I've tried, not the longest but distance is very consistant.
