Gary Lineker

I like the guy. A good mix of insight and humour. I don't agree with every opinion he spouts, but who would?
 
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Am I missing something, what was bad about his tweets?

I think part of the problem was that he accused anyone that questioned the migrants ages of being racist. In general I agreed with most of what he (and Lily Allen) were tweeting but they were both guilty of playing the racism card against anyone that questioned them on it. Especially after the suggestion that Home Office statistics revealed that 2/3 of child migrants had lied about their age to claim to be under 18 when they weren't. But that doesn't excuse some of the abuse they both received.
 
As a presenter, I don't mind Gary Linekar one bit. In fact I think he is one of the best, even if a lot his of guest presenters seem to be old school clicky pals.
As a footballer, nothing but respect for what he achieved at both club and country level.
yes he is more than entitled to his opinion on anything and everything.
However, having Said all that, to have a pop at people because they are concerned because some of these child refugees are not children and have a better Tash than me borders on pig ignorance. I have yet to speak to anyone who does not agree with child refugees leaving a hell hole called Syria to end up in another hell hole called Calais, and then coming to this country. It is the fact that once more people that are desperate to get to this country any way possible dress themselves up as kids. That is what people up and down the country are up in arms about.
Should he be sacked, for what giving an opinion based on ignorance. Not gonna and should not happen.
 
Is this a reference to his comments on the migrants? Personally I think he should perhaps not speak out as he's not the most qualified to do so. As a footballer he was top drawer. As a TV presenter he's bland

Each and every one of us is fully qualified to speak out on this matter on the grounds of our humanity and compassion. No other qualifications required.
 
Each and every one of us is fully qualified to speak out on this matter on the grounds of our humanity and compassion. No other qualifications required.

Yes they are SILH, but living only about 5 miles from the Channel Tunnel and knowing several police and immigration staff who work on the French side, sometimes the humanity and compassion is misplaced, and I'm not saying that as a blanket statement but down here I hear stories that maybe aren't more widely known and suggest that our carefully selected choice of who we let in may be a more prudent policy
 
Yes they are SILH, but living only about 5 miles from the Channel Tunnel and knowing several police and immigration staff who work on the French side, sometimes the humanity and compassion is misplaced, and I'm not saying that as a blanket statement but down here I hear stories that maybe aren't more widely known and suggest that our carefully selected choice of who we let in may be a more prudent policy
I live up in the NE and see very little day to day impact of what you see and hear and I wouldn't let anyone else in, regardless of reasons, skin colour, age etc. That said I have no issue with anyone, TV pundit or layman feeling the complete opposite and making statements.
 
It seems to me that he made comments that The Sun didn't agree with and so they have laid into in.

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The UK Government (Parliament) made a commitment to take a number (unspecified) of these refugees back in May! But it's only now, when 'The Jungle' is being demolished, that they are really acting on that commitment!

I don't think I would have used the same words that Lineker did, but that's his prerogative. The reaction of The Sun seems typical of how it deals with views different to its own!
 
What I find quite ironic about these child refugees is that yesterday the latest 70 children have been brought into the country. However, because of the outcry of some of the ages of these " children ". The latest 70 were brought in and got off the coach which was screened off with scaffolding and screen sheeting.
Er why was that, if these kids are kids, what's to hide? This is why people are upset and have raised concerns, which is why Mr Linekar has given his opinion, which is why he has been slated, which is why we are talking about it on here.
 
What I find quite ironic about these child refugees is that yesterday the latest 70 children have been brought into the country. However, because of the outcry of some of the ages of these " children ". The latest 70 were brought in and got off the coach which was screened off with scaffolding and screen sheeting.
Er why was that, if these kids are kids, what's to hide? This is why people are upset and have raised concerns, which is why Mr Linekar has given his opinion, which is why he has been slated, which is why we are talking about it on here.

Sorry Tash, are you suggesting we parade these kids in the media so we can discuss their age?
Maybe giving them anonimity gives them a fresh start and we don't have certain newspapers playing games with their lives.
I'm sure the people in charge are doing their very best to ensure they are all children.
 
Sorry Tash, are you suggesting we parade these kids in the media so we can discuss their age?
Maybe giving them anonimity gives them a fresh start and we don't have certain newspapers playing games with their lives.
I'm sure the people in charge are doing their very best to ensure they are all children.

The issue with the scaffold for me, is that it wasn't up for the first lot, so why do the second lot apparently deserve more privacy than the first? Or is it more the government not wanting a backlash? There is no real way to determine their age with paperwork. Many throw away passports so even if caught when sneaking over they can't be proven to be from a country outside the Eu.

Apparentky a dental test can can be carried out which can determine age, not saying it should be used. But there is a possibility. Having seen some of the kids, they look older than me and my mates down the pub.

Unfortunately, working in customs clearance in Dover my views are somewhat tainted with stories u hear from most of the drivers we deal with (both English and European).
 
My friend works at a school with a wide ethnic mix of pupils, some of the boys have facial hair, it makes them look older, it doesn't mean they are.
 
My friend works at a school with a wide ethnic mix of pupils, some of the boys have facial hair, it makes them look older, it doesn't mean they are.

I didn't base it on facial hair. I'm 33 and if I shave weekly it's a surprise.....

my thoughts were more on their overal size and stature. In my mind, having seen first hand some people's attempts to arrive here. Some of them certainly are over 17. I also, as with most of the arrivals seem to see a large majority or men (boys) compared to women.
 
The issue with the scaffold for me, is that it wasn't up for the first lot, so why do the second lot apparently deserve more privacy than the first? Or is it more the government not wanting a backlash? There is no real way to determine their age with paperwork. Many throw away passports so even if caught when sneaking over they can't be proven to be from a country outside the Eu.

Apparentky a dental test can can be carried out which can determine age, not saying it should be used. But there is a possibility. Having seen some of the kids, they look older than me and my mates down the pub.

Unfortunately, working in customs clearance in Dover my views are somewhat tainted with stories u hear from most of the drivers we deal with (both English and European).

The issue with the scaffolding has been brought in because of the reaction of the media to the first lot,
I've no doubt some will try and lie about their age and some will be caught and some will get through.
Size and stature is no guide there are plenty of kids who look way older and vice versa.
Posted previously I think we need to stop everyone regardless of circumstances coming in, but we are, so we have to trust the authorities to do their job.
 
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