EVEL - Not Worthy of Full Debate!

Im fed up of certain people continually asking for proof when it is clear that someone has voiced an opinion that simply cannot be substantiated, therefore what is the point of asking.

It happens again and again and it needs to stop please

have your opinions and agree to disagree, just stop this relentless quest for proof coz its doing my chuffing head in and no doubt many others too:rant:
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Im fed up of certain people continually asking for proof when it is clear that someone has voiced an opinion that simply cannot be substantiated, therefore what is the point of asking.

It happens again and again and it needs to stop please

have your opinions and agree to disagree, just stop this relentless quest for proof coz its doing my chuffing head in and no doubt many others too:rant:
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Prove it :ears:
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Im fed up of certain people continually asking for proof when it is clear that someone has voiced an opinion that simply cannot be substantiated, therefore what is the point of asking.

It happens again and again and it needs to stop please

have your opinions and agree to disagree, just stop this relentless quest for proof coz its doing my chuffing head in and no doubt many others too:rant:
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Can't say I agree.

It's pretty clear that the poster is (and has for quite some time in these type of threads) puting opinion out as a factual statement.

And it's plainly clear that it does quite a few posters chuffing heads in as well. :thup:
 
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PhilTheFragger said:
Im fed up of certain people continually asking for proof when it is clear that someone has voiced an opinion that simply cannot be substantiated, therefore what is the point of asking.

It happens again and again and it needs to stop please

have your opinions and agree to disagree, just stop this relentless quest for proof coz its doing my chuffing head in and no doubt many others too:rant:
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Thank you Phil.
I have not responded as I am not able to see into the future.

Right then........everyone happy that from now on we will only have English PM's and top four cabinet post holders.
I'm not, but I seem to be alone.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Doon said - I think you will find that the sensible majority now want independence
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I've sussed it - I think he means that the Scots are devided into sensible and not sensible and, assuming the mid point is 50% that are deemed sensible then the majority of sensibles could be 51% of that 50%. Therefore the non sensible 50% plus 24% of the sensibles who dont want independence are nearly three quarters of the total Scots vote = no independence!

Easy!
 
chrisd said:
I've sussed it - I think he means that the Scots are devided into sensible and not sensible and, assuming the mid point is 50% that are deemed sensible then the majority of sensibles could be 51% of that 50%. Therefore the non sensible 50% plus 24% of the sensibles who dont want independence are nearly three quarters of the total Scots vote = no independence!

Easy!
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:rofl:
 
chrisd said:
I've sussed it - I think he means that the Scots are devided into sensible and not sensible and, assuming the mid point is 50% that are deemed sensible then the majority of sensibles could be 51% of that 50%. Therefore the non sensible 50% plus 24% of the sensibles who dont want independence are nearly three quarters of the total Scots vote = no independence!

Easy!
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:rofl:
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Thank you Phil.
I have not responded as I am not able to see into the future.

Right then........everyone happy that from now on we will only have English PM's and top four cabinet post holders.
I'm not, but I seem to be alone.
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Your statement of fact wasn't suggesting the future it was suggesting right now - hence why people wanted to see some substance behind it

If you posted it about the future , then it becomes an opinion and you should have worded it as such - but it was clear by the responses by a number of people that it read as a statement of fact right now and you went silent due to a failure to back it up

Right now the "polls" which a good judgement suggest that the people of Scotland right now still don't wan independence.
 
Seen it suggested here and on Twitter that this means there will no longer be anything but an English PM - I'm struggling to understand that bit ?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I know, I got the same sort of response when I predicted the SNP would take 40 seats in the last GE.
How wrong was that.

So....no future Irish, Scots Or Welsh MP's able to become PM.
How do we all feel about that ?
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Has a rule been changed to stop there being a Scottish or Welsh etc future Pm then ?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I'll make it simple for you.
He or she would not be able to speak on English only matters
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Liverpoolphil said:
And ? That still doesn't stop a Scot being elected as PM if his or her party got elected
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I'm confused by this, I haven't read up on it all so forgive my ignorance.

Are you saying that if a Scottish person was elected as PM, and irrelevant of their party, just because he/she was Scottish, Irish or Welsh they wouldn't be able to speak on English matters only, even though they were the elected PM of the UK, which obviously includes England?
 
Fish said:
I'm confused by this, I haven't read up on it all so forgive my ignorance.

Are you saying that if a Scottish person was elected as PM, and irrelevant of their party, just because he/she was Scottish, Irish or Welsh they wouldn't be able to speak on English matters only, even though they were the elected PM of the UK, which obviously includes England?
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I'm going to guess that as an MP if the PM was Scottish he wouldn't be able to vote on a matter that is for an English Constitutional Area possibly ?

It appears it would be the same as the current PM can't vote on something the Scottish Office vote on ?
 
Fish said:
I'm confused by this, I haven't read up on it all so forgive my ignorance.

Are you saying that if a Scottish person was elected as PM, and irrelevant of their party, just because he/she was Scottish, Irish or Welsh they wouldn't be able to speak on English matters only, even though they were the elected PM of the UK, which obviously includes England?
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Only if they are an MP for a non-English constituency
 
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