richy
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By that thought then the average person can't criticise or question anyone. Sports stars, politicians, musicians, actors because most of us haven't done it at the highest level.
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By that thought then the average person can't criticise or question anyone. Sports stars, politicians, musicians, actors because most of us haven't done it at the highest level.
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His Dad won the Masters and he's coached these as well as TW, Ernie Els, Stewart Cink, Greg Norman, Davis Love III, Fred Couples, Justin Leonard, Nick Watney, Justin Rose, Rickie Fowler, Adam Scott, Dustin Johnson, Natalie Gulbis, Jimmy Walker, Justin Thomas and Brandt Snedeker, blagged them all :rofl:
And as for pressure, he served 3 years in Vietnam, so probably felt more pressure than anyone he's coached.
Hmm, Can you only play at the highest or equivalent level in any sport to pass comment/s or even coach them?
Arsene Wenger never played professional football, but would you contest his coaching abilities?
Jose Mourinho did very little as a player, no big club, not even 100 appearances as a professional player, but look at who he's coached and what he's won, should he be questioned as a blagger also?
I'm making an obvious point, just like the advice I gave to Hooker at Cooden, I can see errors in people's games of any ability, just because I can't play to their level doesn't mean I'm wrong in my observations.
Harmon is Mr Golf IMO and his CV endorses it.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
If people who didn't play at the highest level weren't allowed to comment, this forum would be very very quiet.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Butch Harmon won a PGA tour event.
Admittedly only an alternate event while a major was on, but they don't give these things out to people who can't play.
Admittedly only an alternate event while a major was on, but they don't give these things out to people who can't play.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
No mention of JT?
Before the event they were talking about 18 as a true 3 shot par 5, and if anyone went for it would most likely be driver - driver.
JT goes 3 wood - 3 wood from 667yds to 8 feet !!
Before the event they were talking about 18 as a true 3 shot par 5, and if anyone went for it would most likely be driver - driver.
JT goes 3 wood - 3 wood from 667yds to 8 feet !!
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
No mention of JT?
Before the event they were talking about 18 as a true 3 shot par 5, and if anyone went for it would most likely be driver - driver.
JT goes 3 wood - 3 wood from 667yds to 8 feet !!
post 91?
Region3
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Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
No mention of JT?
Before the event they were talking about 18 as a true 3 shot par 5, and if anyone went for it would most likely be driver - driver.
JT goes 3 wood - 3 wood from 667yds to 8 feet !!
I've done 3w,3w to 18 inches on a par 5 before........admittedly it was 170 yards shorter...😜
Hear what your saying but its just the way he comes across and plenty of other coaches have a better record than Harmon and as for his dad winning the Masters whats that got to do with him??.
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Really ? Like who ? That's 11 major winners in that list and I expect there are more
Will be interesting to see what coach you find that has a better record
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You commented on his knowledge, did your father never pass on any of his wisdom to you or talk about his experiences?
To improve his own knowledge he may of talked to his dad for hours and hours about that win.
David Leadbetter has coached players to 22 major wins and managed to keep most of his stable of players,how many of youf list does Harmon still coach?
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Did he really keep most of his stable players ?
Now 22 majors doesn't mean 22 different players does it - Faldo for example is one and he had 6 alone , then there was Els who left to go to Harmon ( then won the Open ) , Norman who also left to Harmon - im guessing the 22 includes the ladies as well
As Wikipedia says "Apart from Faldo his students include Nick Price, Charles Howell III, Michelle Wie, Lydia Ko and Byeong Hun An. Pros who formerly worked with Leadbetter included: Nick Faldo (1984–1998), Greg Norman (1997), and Ernie Els (1990–2008). He was ranked second to Butch Harmon on the 2005-2006 edition of Golf Digest's list of the "50 Greatest Teachers" in the United States."
So is his record really better than Harmon ?
Faldo was Leadbetters star pupil - Woods was Harmons
Your being ridiculous,how can you judge on what golf digest said over 10 years ago? I'm not getting into another silly debate with you again as you can never see your wrong,the information ive given on Leadbetter is correct and stands for itself.
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Latest Golf Digest
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.golfdigest.com/gallery/50-best-teachers-in-america-2015-2016/amp
Harmon at number one still - Leadbetter down to 5 now , in those ten years Harmon has continued to coach major winners - Leadbetter hasn't.
Remember it was your ridiculous statement about Harmon that started it and you have been once again given factual information to show how ridiculous a statement it was about Harmon. Maybe the easiest thing to do is research first before blurting out stuff
Another petty argument that has no conclusive answer and one the protaganists will throw argument and counter-argument over. Lots of decent coaches to good players on all tours (Cowen springs to mind) many of whom never did anything as a player themeselves. Would you seriously discredit their credentials simply because they may not have coached a major winner (yet)
As for the golf itself I'd like to see Fleetwood win but think Fowler can kick on and win. Will be an interesting few hours
As for the golf itself I'd like to see Fleetwood win but think Fowler can kick on and win. Will be an interesting few hours
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Good to hear Butch suggesting the "in the hole" shouters should be thrown out
BomberSRL
Head Pro
The golf is on guys....I came on here to have a look at what you thought of it so far! Not to see a terrible pi**ing contest about golf coach knowledge. Koepka looks strong!
Actually finding the shoutouts from American kids on the tee shots quite humorous. "Say hello to your mother for me" being the most notable so far.
Actually finding the shoutouts from American kids on the tee shots quite humorous. "Say hello to your mother for me" being the most notable so far.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Brooks just nailed one and a guy has shouted "say hello to your mother for me"
I had a giggle but realised quickly how puerile it was. Shame on me
