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England Vs Scotland footy

Yeah Ive heard similar but not seen it yet as haven't had chance, suppose we have to be patient now and see how the young guys develop.

The FA centre at Burton will surely help with this too hopefully. :thup:

Wouldn't count on that mate,sadly.
Premier league is all,now.
Instant success required, they don't give a stuff about the national team.
It isn't the best league in the world,just the richest.

We're so limited it's untrue.
Snelly's right I'm afraid.
Of course we're not THAT bad but it's all relative.
We like to think we can compete at a tournament with the likes of Italy, Germany etc. but we can't, we really just can't.
Shame really.
 
Wouldn't count on that mate,sadly.
Premier league is all,now.
Instant success required, they don't give a stuff about the national team.
It isn't the best league in the world,just the richest.

We're so limited it's untrue.
Snelly's right I'm afraid.
Of course we're not THAT bad but it's all relative.
We like to think we can compete at a tournament with the likes of Italy, Germany etc. but we can't, we really just can't.
Shame really.

That's why changes have been put in place to try and improve things. The amount of home grown players in your team will have to increase, the financial fair play, the improved coaching at grass roots level & the superb FA facility at Burton which is world class.

We are trying to make the step up but people have got to give it a chance rather than being so miserable and cynical. I know its hard because we balls up in every tournament but just giving up on the team is pathetic and anybody who does wants deporting :D
 
That's why changes have been put in place to try and improve things. The amount of home grown players in your team will have to increase, the financial fair play, the improved coaching at grass roots level & the superb FA facility at Burton which is world class.

We are trying to make the step up but people have got to give it a chance rather than being so miserable and cynical. I know its hard because we balls up in every tournament but just giving up on the team is pathetic and anybody who does wants deporting :D

You have a very simple outlook on this subject. And you are totally wrong. Wrong, and delusional. A typical English football fan in fact.

Have a nice weekend.
 
You have a very simple outlook on this subject. And you are totally wrong. Wrong, and delusional. A typical English football fan in fact.

Have a nice weekend.

Yeah ok. Your the one spouting crap and not backing it up with anything! :rofl:

Hardly deluded when what ive said is backed up with facts.

England arent winning trophies so I cant be bothered with them and they are crap. That's the typical English football fan and you seem to be one of them.
 
I'm older than you mate :(.
We've gone backwards and we're a looonnnng way behind the top sides.
Would like nothing more than for us to win a tournament,I mean for heaven's sake, GREECE have :o
Not in my lifetime methinks, maybe in yours :thup:
 
I'm older than you mate :(.
We've gone backwards and we're a looonnnng way behind the top sides.
Would like nothing more than for us to win a tournament,I mean for heaven's sake, GREECE have :o
Not in my lifetime methinks, maybe in yours :thup:

I would love us to win a tournament too unlikely though it is at the moment. Ive never said we are going to or give it the big un saying we are the best in the world etc. Ive never said we are better than Spain, Brazil etc etc either but we can beat them and we have done.

People are just to quick to say we are crap and have no chance. All these so called English people give the team crap all year round yet when the major tournaments come round they are there with their face paint, replica top and beer in hand singing Vindaloo.

We don't hammer teams like Scotland in a friendly and we are rubbish then we beat Spain in a friendly then its the old "Its only a friendly crap" Well im sorry you cant have it both ways. Either get behind the team or stop moaning.

Knocks me sick.
 
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Yeah ok. Your the one spouting crap and not backing it up with anything! :rofl:

Hardly deluded when what ive said is backed up with facts.

England arent winning trophies so I cant be bothered with them and they are crap. That's the typical English football fan and you seem to be one of them.

Oh dear.

It is absolutely true that I don't care one iota about the England football team but that has nothing to with the fact that they don't win tournaments.

If I could be bothered, I would explain to you what I think is wrong with English football but I am busy and don't have the time. Not only that, I would definitely cause offence to you and others and like my Grandad always said, If tha can't say owt nice, say nowt.
 
I would love us to win a tournament too unlikely though it is at the moment. Ive never said we are going to or give it the big un saying we are the best in the world etc. Ive never said we are better than Spain, Brazil etc etc either but we can beat them and we have done.

People are just to quick to say we are crap and have no chance. All these so called English people give the team crap all year round yet when the major tournaments come round they are there with their face paint, replica top and beer in hand singing Vindaloo.

We don't hammer teams like Scotland in a friendly and we are rubbish then we beat Spain in a friendly then its the old "Its only a friendly crap" Well im sorry you cant have it both ways. Either get behind the team or stop moaning.

Knocks me sick.

I think you need to calm down :eek:

;);):whistle:
 
Oh dear.

It is absolutely true that I don't care one iota about the England football team but that has nothing to with the fact that they don't win tournaments.

If I could be bothered, I would explain to you what I think is wrong with English football but I am busy and don't have the time. Not only that, I would definitely cause offence to you and others and like my Grandad always said, If tha can't say owt nice, say nowt.

There is a lot wrong and can be improved on I agree but there's no need for the irrational dislike for the England team which you seem to have. In fact a lot seem to think its fashionable to hate the England team. That's if your even a football fan at all as I suspect it runs deeper than hating just the England team.
 

Perfectly calm. Just cant stand all these people who constantly moan and call the England team crap.

I imagine they will say the same if by some miracle we reach next years world cup final though wont they?


I doubt it.
 
I would love us to win a tournament too unlikely though it is at the moment. Ive never said we are going to or give it the big un saying we are the best in the world etc. Ive never said we are better than Spain, Brazil etc etc either but we can beat them and we have done.

People are just to quick to say we are crap and have no chance. All these so called English people give the team crap all year round yet when the major tournaments come round they are there with their face paint, replica top and beer in hand singing Vindaloo.

We don't hammer teams like Scotland in a friendly and we are rubbish then we beat Spain in a friendly then its the old "Its only a friendly crap" Well im sorry you cant have it both ways. Either get behind the team or stop moaning.

Knocks me sick.

Just ignore 'em.
Have a mate like this, so called Bolton fan who lets his lad support Manyoo - plain wrong.
I just laugh at him.

Anyway, back to the national team.
As before, Prem is the problem (and champs league, as in "I must be playing in champs league give me a move waaah waaah).
To much so-called talent concentated in too few teams (again who have zero interest in England).
If I was Hodgson, I would say right now, any player who is fit but not starting for his club regularly, doesn't get picked.
Cat, pigeons etc.
Think about it ;)
 
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There is a lot wrong and can be improved on I agree but there's no need for the irrational dislike for the England team which you seem to have. In fact a lot seem to think its fashionable to hate the England team. That's if your even a football fan at all as I suspect it runs deeper than hating just the England team.

In fairness, some of us have always hated the England team..... :whistle:
 
Just ignore 'em.
Have a mate like this, so called Bolton fan who lets his lad support Manyoo - plain wrong.
I just laugh at him.

Anyway, back to the national team.
As before, Prem is the problem (and champs league, as in "I must be playing in champs league give me a move waaah waaah).
To much so-called talent concentated in too few teams (again who have zero interest in England).
If I was Hodgson, I would say right now, any player who is fit but not starting for his club regularly, doesn't get picked.
Cat, pigeons etc.
Think about it ;)

Very poor parentage that :eek: Wouldn't be living under my roof!

The sooner the home grown player rules are toughened up the better in that sense imo. Too many players stockpiled so the big boys can have a massive squad. These players need to be proving it every week against the top players not having 20 minute cameos every week.
 
Very poor parentage that :eek: Wouldn't be living under my roof!

The sooner the home grown player rules are toughened up the better in that sense imo. Too many players stockpiled so the big boys can have a massive squad. These players need to be proving it every week against the top players not having 20 minute cameos every week.

:thup:

See Snelly, he's not delusional.
We need to incentivise the players.
Once they've got a contract at a top team, they're made for life.
Played in a comp at our club with a former Wanderer last week.
Played at a variety of clubs from mid 70's to early 90's.
Now works for Network Rail - no loafing about for him.
Be the same for most folk from the pre- prem era I guess.

Where's the need for say, Theo Walcott to learn what to actually do when he's got the ball at his feet ?
There isn't cos he's got his money.
This is what frustrates, young Walcott seems to have what it takes but too often plays like he's got both boots tied together.
And he's not alone.
Too many for too long been quite happy to pick up 25k+ a week for getting splinters on the bench.
Think we do have skillful players but most spend all game trying to outdo their own team mates (yes you Stevie Me !!)
Will never play as a true team when most REALLY don't like each other.
 
Can tell it was somebody Scottish who picked that :rofl:

It was a BBC correspondent......blimey that really is a change, normally it would be 11 English players and the referee.

I don't think he was to far off the mark TBH.
Some of the Scottish back tracking was very impressive, especially Brown and Morrison..
 
You have a very simple outlook on this subject. And you are totally wrong. Wrong, and delusional. A typical English football fan in fact.

Have a nice weekend.

Oh dear.

It is absolutely true that I don't care one iota about the England football team but that has nothing to with the fact that they don't win tournaments.

If I could be bothered, I would explain to you what I think is wrong with English football but I am busy and don't have the time. Not only that, I would definitely cause offence to you and others and like my Grandad always said, If tha can't say owt nice, say nowt.

:) Strewth Snelly!! You dont seem to have taken your Grandad's advice here :whistle:
 
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