England Summer Test Series

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Problem he has in Test cricket is the bowlers are generally quicker but more importantly more disciplined with their lines and lengths than they are in County Cricket. So not only does he have less time to react, he is also constantly getting tested, there are few gimme balls in Test cricket so the pressure never gets released. It's like Gary Ballance, his technique just isn't suited to the Test level, he constantly looked like a walking wicket. Jennings might get a few runs in the winter where the quicks will only bowl for 10/15 overs before the spinners come on and where the pitches are a bit slower with less movement but I can't see him being successful in England, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa.
 
Dan2501 said:
Problem he has in Test cricket is the bowlers are generally quicker but more importantly more disciplined with their lines and lengths than they are in County Cricket. So not only does he have less time to react, he is also constantly getting tested, there are few gimme balls in Test cricket so the pressure never gets released. It's like Gary Ballance, his technique just isn't suited to the Test level, he constantly looked like a walking wicket. Jennings might get a few runs in the winter where the quicks will only bowl for 10/15 overs before the spinners come on and where the pitches are a bit slower with less movement but I can't see him being successful in England, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa.
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Did you watch the lancs T20 quarter final? It was like watching a different player. The bowler was the NZ quick (Milne?) and he was cranking it up around mid ninetys..... Jennings stroked him all round the ground and played beautifully. Made me think its more between the ears and the pressures of test cricket.
 
Junior said:
Did you watch the lancs T20 quarter final? It was like watching a different player. The bowler was the NZ quick (Milne?) and he was cranking it up around mid ninetys..... Jennings stroked him all round the ground and played beautifully. Made me think its more between the ears and the pressures of test cricket.
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Well I don't think that there's much between his ears.

Otherwise how could you explain today's dismissal. Straightforward catching practice for leg slip.

Sorry but for once I would have to agree with KP when he said " Keaton Jennings! He can't play."

And yet it's now being suggested that he will be on the tour to Sri Lanka.

Just shows how desperately short England is for top order batsmen.
 
Great knock from the chef and also Ali - Shame no one else really contributed. 250 would be a good score if they can get there
 
Jennings needs a big score in the 2nd innings. He really doesn't look like he can cut it at this level on a regular basis and the footwork is flawed. The issue is with Cook going as well England need two openers and Sri Lanka and the West Indians will be tough places to make debuts. Who will come in?

Great to see Cook get a final send off as he deserves it for his contribution to England. Great to see him make some runs and a shame he couldn't quite make it to the three figures. Another poor day overall with the bat again by England from a strong 133-1 and we need to try and eek a score of at least 250
 
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MetalMickie said:
Well I don't think that there's much between his ears.

Otherwise how could you explain today's dismissal. Straightforward catching practice for leg slip.

Sorry but for once I would have to agree with KP when he said " Keaton Jennings! He can't play."

And yet it's now being suggested that he will be on the tour to Sri Lanka.

Just shows how desperately short England is for top order batsmen.
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Who would you bring in mate....??? Burns and??
 
Junior said:
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Who would you bring in mate....??? Burns and??
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Have seen Joe Denlys name mentioned a few times which if they give him a go I would hope Hildreath is added

I think going to Sri Lanka it’s going to be Burns , Jennings and either Stoneman or Denly.
 
MetalMickie said:
Well I don't think that there's much between his ears.

Otherwise how could you explain today's dismissal. Straightforward catching practice for leg slip.

Sorry but for once I would have to agree with KP when he said " Keaton Jennings! He can't play."

And yet it's now being suggested that he will be on the tour to Sri Lanka.

Just shows how desperately short England is for top order batsmen.
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Was listening to Geoff Boycott on test match special and he was pretty damming of Jennings overall performance this summer and this really soft dismissal. What will he do on the real turning pitches in Sri Lanka. He was also asking why Bairstow who is a keeper/batsman is ahead of Buttler and Ali is at number 3 when his average lower down the order is significantly better. Square pegs in round holes as he called it and he made some compelling points
 
Junior said:
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Who would you bring in mate....??? Burns and??
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Therein lies the problem. I really hate not being constructive and feel that if I suggest Jennings is not good enough I should have an alternative .

However, I look round County cricket and all I see are more and more one-day specialists.

Burns is just the latest in a long line and should, at least, be given a chance. I truly hope he proves me wrong.

But after him there doesn't appear to be anyone with an outstanding claim. So perhaps we will have to stick with Jen
 
50 for Jos Buttler. Has impressed me this summer, didn't think he was a Test player but now has one century and four fifties this summer at an average of 52.44. Very impressive.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Was listening to Geoff Boycott on test match special and he was pretty damming of Jennings overall performance this summer and this really soft dismissal. What will he do on the real turning pitches in Sri Lanka. He was also asking why Bairstow who is a keeper/batsman is ahead of Buttler and Ali is at number 3 when his average lower down the order is significantly better. Square pegs in round holes as he called it and he made some compelling points
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not sure Ali has really had that much of a shot batting at the top of the order bar an overseas series against Pakistan, and thats where hes batted most of his life esp in county cricket. yes he had some success counter attacking down the order and flogging tired attacks in tests but given the distinct lack of options to bat in the top 3 for me hes definitely worth considering, especially since we wont be having 2 lefties opening again

you can talk about square pegs in round holes but if your best 6 batters all ideally want to bat between 4 and 7 then there has to be some movement, and Ali who was a top order batter until England picked him as a spinner (and got a double hundred at 3 in the CC a couple of weeks ago) is by far the worst example of this going on (a keeper batting as a specialist batsman at 7 and a keeper batting at 4 or 5???)
 
Dan2501 said:
50 for Jos Buttler. Has impressed me this summer, didn't think he was a Test player but now has one century and four fifties this summer at an average of 52.44. Very impressive.
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hes done well, albeit hidden down at 7 with license to counter attack, long term if he is to play just as a batter he has to take responsibility and bat a bit higher up and earlier in the innings

best comment I just saw was that Buttler, picked for the test on IPL form is now likely not to be able to play anywhere near as much IPL cricket as he wont be released by England. Funny old game
 
England's problem is that they have too many players who can score runs when batting at 7 or 8 but look like walking wickets in the top 6. If Buttler remains in the team long-term he has to bat in the top 6. He should be at 6 and Stokes at 7. Otherwise judging both players is distorted. Batting outside of the top 6 doesnt come with the same inherent pressures or require the same mindset. I dont necessarily agree with what Boycott said in the last test about Bairstow batting at 7 but i'm also not convinced about Bairstow in test cricket full stop. He's been in the team for a while now but doesnt seem to be able to step up and become a senior player.

For me Burns and Hildreth should have been in. But i wonder whether they are ignored as they aren't in the same mould as the likes of Buttler.
 
Bowlers have put England in control now but a great effort from the tail to get up to a solid total. I agree that Burns in particular deserves a run in the team. Whether he gets that remains to be seen but Tongo makes a good point and too Buttler like
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Bowlers have put England in control now but a great effort from the tail to get up to a solid total. I agree that Burns in particular deserves a run in the team. Whether he gets that remains to be seen but Tongo makes a good point and too Buttler like
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how many times have you seen burns bat in red ball cricket? Im gonna guess none?
 
You best take very patient excellent players of spin. When went over there this year the pitches were taking big turn from ball 1. They opened with Herath and he ripped us apart.

Rashid and Ali will be on the plane
 
HomerJSimpson said:
So a county championship average of around 65, past 1000 runs for the season and a highest score of 194. Doesn't perform at all in red ball cricket https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-one/averages
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Not sure what question youre answering but its not the one I posted and you have quoted! Or do you not want to answer that one as I got it right?

When did I say he didnt perform? Im actually a big fan at county level (I saw some of his 190 odd off Worcs) but pretty sure his technique will get found out at international level (as will almost all county cricketers). The fact the England selectors picked Pope to bat at 4 rather than him earlier in the summer implies theyve seen as much as you have of him batting in red ball cricket!
 
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