England Summer Test Series

[Norrin Radd]

so Cook says im off ,to my mind that smacks of let me play in the last test as i wouldnt have got picked any other way cos im playing as Tashy would say RAMMEL. this way i go out with a fanfare rather than just fading away .
im sure that im in for a bit of slating now but you know im right. he wouldnt have been picked if he wasnt retiring.

 

[jusme]

Last test of the series....I'm certain he would have played, regardless. I'm equally sure he would have been dropped before the next tour/series. No outstanding talents waiting to take his place, otherwise the threat might have been earlier

 

[Deleted member 18588]

so Cook says im off ,to my mind that smacks of let me play in the last test as i wouldnt have got picked any other way cos im playing as Tashy would say RAMMEL. this way i go out with a fanfare rather than just fading away .
im sure that im in for a bit of slating now but you know im right. he wouldnt have been picked if he wasnt retiring.

OK then who would have been picked in his place, bearing in mind the difficulty in finding a replacement for Jennings who would surely be the first to go.

From what I have seen Burns isn't the answer. You can get away with going at the ball in County cricket but we have seen that doesn't transfer to Tests.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

so Cook says im off ,to my mind that smacks of let me play in the last test as i wouldnt have got picked any other way cos im playing as Tashy would say RAMMEL. this way i go out with a fanfare rather than just fading away .
im sure that im in for a bit of slating now but you know im right. he wouldnt have been picked if he wasnt retiring.

Cook was always going to be playing in the last test - the selectors arent going to drop someone when there isnt anyone better to replace him with.

So sorry you are not right.

Burns is the one that is next in line to be given a go but who knows with him

 

[Bunkermagnet]

so Cook says im off ,to my mind that smacks of let me play in the last test as i wouldnt have got picked any other way cos im playing as Tashy would say RAMMEL. this way i go out with a fanfare rather than just fading away .
im sure that im in for a bit of slating now but you know im right. he wouldnt have been picked if he wasnt retiring.

Must confess, I have a great deal of sympathy with this view. However, the fly in the ointment is that his opening partner isnt set or certain, and would the selectors have risked 2 new openers?
Seeing as the series is won, I think they should have been looking to try new blood opening and defo number 3, but then I'm not selecting.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Cook was always going to be playing in the last test - the selectors arent going to drop someone when there isnt anyone better to replace him with.

So sorry you are not right.

Burns is the one that is next in line to be given a go but who knows with him

Posts 209 and 211 said he was going to miss the test. Now he was always going to play????

I think he deserves his finale given what he's done but surely it's still down to whether he wants to be at the birth of his child doesn't it

 

[fundy]

http://cricviz.com/2018/09/to-treat-those-two-imposter-just-the-same/

Cracking article on Cook

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Must confess, I have a great deal of sympathy with this view. However, the fly in the ointment is that his opening partner isnt set or certain, and would the selectors have risked 2 new openers?
Seeing as the series is won, I think they should have been looking to try new blood opening and defo number 3, but then I'm not selecting.

Nothing wrong with picking two new openers and blooding them together for a dead rubber. However is there anyone in the current squad capable of moving up to open to just pick one newbie?

 

[fundy]

Nothing wrong with picking two new openers and blooding them together for a dead rubber. However is there anyone in the current squad capable of moving up to open to just pick one newbie?

Ali the only one who is used to batting in the top order, looks like he may well be batting at 3 again anyway

 

[Piece]

Sounds like a cracking game at Taunton. Somerset fail to chase 78 to win the game...match tied. 😲

 

[Norrin Radd]

all very well saying who is going to replace Cook ,but unless we try player how the hell are you going to pick a player you know very little about ,the final test would have been an ideal chance to try new blood. all due respect to Cook he is one of the finest players i have seen but every dog has to bow out sometime.

 

[fundy]

Sounds like a cracking game at Taunton. Somerset fail to chase 78 to win the game...match tied. 😲

utterly brainless at the end from Somerset, Bess stumped with scores level then Leach holes out to wide long on.

interesting to see if Somerset are still in positive points once the pitch has been assessed (assuming the assessor can get in on day 3 lol)

 

[Deleted member 18588]

all very well saying who is going to replace Cook ,but unless we try player how the hell are you going to pick a player you know very little about ,the final test would have been an ideal chance to try new blood. all due respect to Cook he is one of the finest players i have seen but every dog has to bow out sometime.

On the other hand it is all very well saying replace Cook and Jennings but with whom do you replace them.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

all very well saying who is going to replace Cook ,but unless we try player how the hell are you going to pick a player you know very little about ,the final test would have been an ideal chance to try new blood. all due respect to Cook he is one of the finest players i have seen but every dog has to bow out sometime.

So which new blood should they try considering they have been trying openers for the last 3/4 years and none have been as good as Cook

 

[Norrin Radd]

So which new blood should they try considering they have been trying openers for the last 3/4 years and none have been as good as Cook

So which new blood should they try considering they have been trying openers for the last 3/4 years and none have been as good as Cook

so nobody is better than Cook who is playing like Stevie Wonder in batting and slip fielding .ok so lets talk him out of retirement then shall we?
the selectors will pick who they think is capable and we will see if they are right.but we will be sending them to Sri Lanka untried .I would rather they played the last test together in front of a large crowd and get a glimpse of what could be rather than hoping in Sri Lanka that they might perform .I dont know who can replace Cook they are huge shoes to fill but we wont be any the wiser if players dont get a chance and a dead rubber is a great place for new blood.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

so nobody is better than Cook who is playing like Stevie Wonder in batting and slip fielding .ok so lets talk him out of retirement then shall we?
the selectors will pick who they think is capable and we will see if they are right.but we will be sending them to Sri Lanka untried .I would rather they played the last test together in front of a large crowd and get a glimpse of what could be rather than hoping in Sri Lanka that they might perform .I dont know who can replace Cook they are huge shoes to fill but we wont be any the wiser if players dont get a chance and a dead rubber is a great place for new blood.

A world of difference between the conditions at the Oval in September and those that they will experience in Sri Lanka

If two new openers are to be blooded then better it is done away from the glare of the home based media.

 

[fundy]

thats one thing, not sure Galle is the best of places to try and start your career. Gonna be a tough winter for the batters in relatively alien conditions youd think

 

[HomerJSimpson]

A world of difference between the conditions at the Oval in September and those that they will experience in Sri Lanka

If two new openers are to be blooded then better it is done away from the glare of the home based media.

Not sure I agree. Blooding them in unfamiliar surroundings and seeing them struggle will have the hacks sharpening the knives. We've seen before how England can bring promising players in and then seemingly discard them because they haven't performed before. At best they'll be in and out of the side for a while and worse case dropped like a stone. Like all good sides, if we are going to be transitioning like the Aussies had to, as the likes of Anderson can't keep going, then we need to bring people into the fold and let them find their feet. We have development squads but again it's a huge leap from that level of cricket (and against opposition a long way of test sides) to test cricket

 

[Deleted member 18588]

thats one thing, not sure Galle is the best of places to try and start your career. Gonna be a tough winter for the batters in relatively alien conditions youd think

I agree but it wouldn't be made any easier by playing one home Test at the Oval.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

It's not only the ground conditions, but the standard of bowler they will be facing. It's one thing to open against county bowlers, but a different story against the top of India in this case, then Sri Lanka.