England Summer Test Series

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agreed that 4-1 flattered England a bit. But however the quality and the competitiveness of the cricket was great to see. Also it was the right line between aggression and sportsmanship. None of the Aussie shenanigans on show thankfully.
 
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agreed that 4-1 flattered England a bit. But however the quality and the competitiveness of the cricket was great to see. Also it was the right line between aggression and sportsmanship. None of the Aussie shenanigans on show thankfully.
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Indeed, Kohli often criticised for his attitude but has clearly grown, not only as a batter and is a credit to the game, happily watch him bat time after time. Showed his class this summer in differing ways
 
Perhaps a little closer than it should have been. Fantastic to see Anderson get the record, a great finale for Cook. Also well done to the Indian wicketkeeper who became the first keeper to score a century in England for a touring Indian team. Interesting to see who gets the nod this winter
 
Burns following his 122 in the first innings against Worcestershire with an unbeaten 50 so far in the 2nd innings. Pretty remarkable that the only opener guaranteed a spot in Sri Lanka is a bloke who's never played a Test before.

Interestingly Stoneman is unbeaten on 50* alongside Burns. Does he get another go? What other options are there? I'm thinking the options are:

Burns
Jennings
Stoneman
Moeen
Bell

Anyone else even in the conversation? I've seen Aggers suggesting Woakes but that would be a bit of a desperation pick I feel.
 
Dan2501 said:
Burns following his 122 in the first innings against Worcestershire with an unbeaten 50 so far in the 2nd innings. Pretty remarkable that the only opener guaranteed a spot in Sri Lanka is a bloke who's never played a Test before.

Interestingly Stoneman is unbeaten on 50* alongside Burns. Does he get another go?
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Burns should get a go, no question.

I'd also like to see what the selectors ect see in Jennings that makes them thing he will come good??/

looks more a walking wicket than Gary Ballance, at least it took a while for all the other teams a while to work out Ballance, Jennings was his 2nd test onwards.
 
Just seen Stoneman's averaging 26 this year. Tough to pick him really.

Looking at the Telegraph website - their writers are picking:

Vince and Livingstone
Burns and Gubbins
Burns and Jennings
Burns and Ali
Hameed and Burns

Livingstone scored 2 hundreds for England Lions in Sri Lanka last year apparently but is averaging a paltry 17.83 this season. Gubbins is averaging 33.54 and Hameed is averaging 9.7. Not easy picking 2 openers right now.
 
Joe Denly should go along with Burns and I suspect they will give Jennings an away series

As for the slots below - Ali obviously will go and I think they will go with Vince

They should give someone like Abell , Livingstone a go but think both will be on the A tour

The other players going will be Overton and Porter with Broad given a rest on one tour and Anderson the other

Leach should go and possibly Bess

The touring party imo will be

Burns
Denly
Jennings
Ali
Vince
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
J Overton
Curran
Leach
Anderson/Broad
Bess/Rashid
 
Denly doesn't open for Kent anymore, bats 3 or 4 and he's hardly shooting the lights out either - averaging 36.6 in Div 2. Really is worrying how little options there are around the counties. I'd rather we threw Bell, Hildreth or Vince up top ahead of someone like Denly.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Joe Denly should go along with Burns and I suspect they will give Jennings an away series

As for the slots below - Ali obviously will go and I think they will go with Vince

They should give someone like Abell , Livingstone a go but think both will be on the A tour

The other players going will be Overton and Porter with Broad given a rest on one tour and Anderson the other

Leach should go and possibly Bess

The touring party imo will be

Burns
Denly
Jennings
Ali
Vince
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
J Overton
Curran
Leach
Anderson/Broad
Bess/Rashid
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I think Stone will go ahead of Porter, they will want Porter to get through a lot of reps on the A tour and see how his fitness stands up as opposed to being water carrier Would be very surprised to see Bess go. Agree with all the batsmen, although you may have 1 more than they will take in there. That spot is between Jennings and Denly I think.

It's unbelievable that Burns is seemingly not rated by the selectors. They'll take him because they absolutely have to, but by all accounts aren't a fan of his technique - it's as if weight of runs over 5 years is less important than technique! And all this at a time when our greatest run scorer has just retired - a batsmen with a limited and somewhat unorthodox style!
 
Right - I've finally decided. My team for Sri Lanka is:

Burns
Vince
Hildreth
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Moeen
Curran
Anderson
Leach

Then I'm filling out the squad with - Pope, Woakes, Foakes, Overton and Rashid.
 
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Looking at some of the names suggested I fear that we are going to be 20-3 rather than the 30-3 we have become used to.

I don't understand how middle order batsmen with modest career records can be expected to succeed as test openers.

Burns is obviously next cab on the rank, names in the hat after that.

Root not interested in taking one for the team since he has opened for England before?
 
saving_par said:
Looking at some of the names suggested I fear that we are going to be 20-3 rather than the 30-3 we have become used to.

I don't understand how middle order batsmen with modest career records can be expected to succeed as test openers.

Burns is obviously next cab on the rank, names in the hat after that.

Root not interested in taking one for the team since he has opened for England before?
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i know he has had great results at 4, but like you say Root was an opener at the start and was desperate to open when he first came into the side
 
Surrey win the county champs div 1 after a cracking game against Worcs. Hard to argue they havent deserved it, fitting that Morkel in at the death, been a massive signing and part of their success
 
How do we rate Daryl Mitchell as an option to open? 3 FC centuries this season, only 4 men with more Div 1 runs, experienced campaigner with almost 12,500 FC runs at 40.
 
Dan2501 said:
How do we rate Daryl Mitchell as an option to open? 3 FC centuries this season, only 4 men with more Div 1 runs, experienced campaigner with almost 12,500 FC runs at 40.
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shows just how empty the cupboard is when the likes of Mitchell and Denly are being mentioned as feasible options

Mitchell is mid 30s feels like hes been around forever without ever setting the world on fire, good solid county pro but no more for me, can be a bit boom or bust (lots of little scores amidst the tons)
 
Cupboard is certainly bare. Burns and Jennings will be the likely candidates to open. Jennings was actually scoring well in Div 1 before the tests but he seems to struggle to make the step up. As there is no one else, then the selectors will probably give him another go. Vince has the 2nd highest amount of runs in Div 1 so more than likely he'll get the nod. Hildreth isn't far behind and on a turning Somerset wicket, I think the selectors would be crazy to overlook him for this squad.
 
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Cupboard is certainly bare. Burns and Jennings will be the likely candidates to open. Jennings was actually scoring well in Div 1 before the tests but he seems to struggle to make the step up. As there is no one else, then the selectors will probably give him another go. Vince has the 2nd highest amount of runs in Div 1 so more than likely he'll get the nod. Hildreth isn't far behind and on a turning Somerset wicket, I think the selectors would be crazy to overlook him for this squad.
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I think Hildreaths time has gone unfortunately- shame as he is superb player but happy that he will be around for Somerset

The two players that should imo at least get a Lion call up are Abell and Gregory , unfortunately for Gregory he is another number 7 bat plus good bowler but Abell imo can be a very good 4/5
 
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