Does your pro use youtube ...

[garyinderry]

I'm guessing the pro wants people to come back to him for lessons to earn a living though!?

He could refer everyone to YouTube who then use those instead of booking in lessons with him?

Maybe not, referring people to a free source of the information they are paying you for probably not the smartest business model though.....

Do people only go to pros when something is wrong ? everyone knows the free videos are there. they still go to pro's so they can still make a living.


I would just like to think they could do more to progress people's games. There is plenty of people at my old club playing off low numbers like scratch and 1 etc who still take lessons regularly. They aren't necessary making big errors. Just trying to eek the most out of their game.

 

[garyinderry]

Totally disagree I'm afraid. Listen to pros on TV talk and many will say that they've been working on addressing old faults regarding posture etc. It's an ongoing issue with a lot of club golfers, getting the basics right regularly and I don't see any need to keep referring to videos regarding this. They don't tell me anything I don't know I should be doing. If anything I feel they are going to confuse the issue.

The difference is homie, is that pros will regularly video their own swing. Be in constant contact with their swing gurus and possibly have them looking over their shoulder along with checking their numbers.

We don't really have that luxury. I really like the fact some pros give their pupils personal videos they can review over again. Really innovative. It can act as a reminder down the line when a fault enviably rears its head.

"It's an ongoing issue with a lot of club golfers, getting the basics right regularly and I don't see any need to keep referring to videos regarding this''. - this is as good a reason as any to refer to videos.

 

[Cheifi0]

Do people only go to pros when something is wrong ? everyone knows the free videos are there. they still go to pro's so they can still make a living.


I would just like to think they could do more to progress people's games. There is plenty of people at my old club playing off low numbers like scratch and 1 etc who still take lessons regularly. They aren't necessary making big errors. Just trying to eek the most out of their game.

I have to agree with you. The pro I have been using gave me an understanding of what I am doing wrong and had one drill to try and do. Progress was very slow with it so looked on youtube for more things to help. Tried something else which must of just struck a chord with me and meant that progress was a lot quicker.

Showing drills from youtube doesn't detract from a teaching pros skill as the main aspect of there job is identifying errors in the swing.

 

[garyinderry]

Showing drills from youtube doesn't detract from a teaching pros skill as the main aspect of there job is identifying errors in the swing.

Exactly. They can be used as an added extra resource, not as an alternative.

The pro might show you one drill but as chiefo says there may well be anther drill that suits you better doing the same job.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The difference is homie, is that pros will regularly video their own swing. Be in constant contact with their swing gurus and possibly have them looking over their shoulder along with checking their numbers.

We don't really have that luxury. I really like the fact some pros give their pupils personal videos they can review over again. Really innovative. It can act as a reminder down the line when a fault enviably rears its head.

"It's an ongoing issue with a lot of club golfers, getting the basics right regularly and I don't see any need to keep referring to videos regarding this''. - this is as good a reason as any to refer to videos.

As I say I disagree. I respect your own view point but online videos aren't for me. My issue has always been one of interpretation and picking out exactly what the video is trying to show and then incorporating into my game. How do you know if you're doing it right. As my pro will use video if I need him to and email me what I'm doing especially if it's a before and after on posture, but any swing tweak to be honest I have my own library to refer to specific to me

 

[garyinderry]

How do you know if your doing it right? the proof is surely in the pudding.


Its good that your pro emails you with videos of yourself. They are a valuable resource.

 

[Cheifi0]

As I say I disagree. I respect your own view point but online videos aren't for me. My issue has always been one of interpretation and picking out exactly what the video is trying to show and then incorporating into my game. How do you know if you're doing it right. As my pro will use video if I need him to and email me what I'm doing especially if it's a before and after on posture, but any swing tweak to be honest I have my own library to refer to specific to me

But isn't that the case even with drills that the pro has shown you.

 

[apj0524]

Personally I use both, I have lessons with a pro but I also was watch a number of Youtube videos from guys I think are good and when something is not right before have session with the pro I use I try and work things out myself because I am a great believer that things you learn for yourself they stay learned. One thing I have taken from Crossfields teaching videos is that strike is king, and I now always use face tape or foot spray so I can see the strike, this is because I had a problem with a slice with my irons, woods and wedges and thought I was not releasing my hands enough, leaving the club face open at impact. When I went to the range and hit my irons with face tape I found all my hits were heal based or shanks, the problem was I had crept the club too close to my body cramping my swing and change in posture corrected this and is some thing I am very conscious of now

 

[chrisd]

Do people only go to pros when something is wrong

I wouldn't claim to never see mine to cure a newly developed fault that was wrecking some, or all of my swing, but, generally I just go 2 or 3 times a year for an MOT, simple check whether things are changing adversely

 

[Lump]

The pro I go to uses an app called captured, he uploads the vids from each session with notes and reference materials. I can also add videos to it between lessons for him to keep an eye. I believe it's free and very good.

 

[Cheifi0]

The pro I go to uses an app called captured, he uploads the vids from each session with notes and reference materials. I can also add videos to it between lessons for him to keep an eye. I believe it's free and very good.

That sounds good. Who do you use? I am thinking of making a change just to mix things up a little.

 

[garyinderry]

The pro I go to uses an app called captured, he uploads the vids from each session with notes and reference materials. I can also add videos to it between lessons for him to keep an eye. I believe it's free and very good.

What is these reference materials lump? sounds good. :thup:

 

[garyinderry]

As I say I disagree. I respect your own view point but online videos aren't for me.

Oh and homer, if you are not watching tour players give clinics and tips on how to play the short game you are missing a massive trick.

Online you have access the seve, Mickelson and Trevino. To quote butch Harmon in one of his videos, ''listen up here, I'm giving you pearls''.

 

[Garush34]

My pro just uses his iPad to film and show me what I'm doing. There have been a few occasions where he has used video from other pupils and a couple pros to explain what I'm trying to achieve. I'm happy with this, so far I have been able to understand fully what he's trying to get me to do. After each lesson a use the notes app on my iPhone to note what we worked on and what I need to try and feel and look back on it when needed.

Last week I saw on Instagram a golf pro called Nick Covion was doing a feel swing review if you downloaded the app V1 golf, cost me £3.99 for the app. Within 24 hours he had reviewed my videos and provided me with an analysis of what he though was my main fault. Had me compared to Jordan and Rory and showed me the differences all with a running commentary on what to do. I found it informative and works well. I liked it as I obviously couldn't travel to Florida to see this guy but not sure whether I'd need that if I had see the pro that day.

 

[mteam]

My pro will do me a video explaining what my problem is and how to correct it. He is a 4hr + drive away so most of our contact is via video and email, its tough but I have trust in him

 

[mteam]

Oh and homer, if you are not watching tour players give clinics and tips on how to play the short game you are missing a massive trick.

Online you have access the seve, Mickelson and Trevino. To quote butch Harmon in one of his videos, ''listen up here, I'm giving you pearls''.

Have you seen Jim hardy short game I found it quite an eye opener

 

[garyinderry]

Have you seen Jim hardy short game I found it quite an eye opener

Just a couple of short videos. Have a got a long one?

 

[pokerjoke]

Oh and homer, if you are not watching tour players give clinics and tips on how to play the short game you are missing a massive trick.

Online you have access the seve, Mickelson and Trevino. To quote butch Harmon in one of his videos, ''listen up here, I'm giving you pearls''.

Absolutely spot on in my opinion.
There is a video of Phil Michelson on his short game around the green its about 9 minutes long and if you watch it and have the mental capacity to take it all in you will transform your short game.
Going to a decent pro it would cost you hundreds of pounds.

Where's the proof your doing it right?well the proof is results to me it really is that simple.

The internet is free you can keep going back for free so for me its a no brainer.

 

[Lump]

That sounds good. Who do you use? I am thinking of making a change just to mix things up a little.

He's a guy called Adam ledger down @ Kingswood Golf Centre (Thorne, Doncater area). He was the old assistant at selby but left to become a full time teaching pro. Really really nice lad and doesn't confuse you will too much technical information but more about hitting certain "feels".
For example, I'm a bit of a sloucher with my posture, rather than trying to just get me to pump my chest out he got me to think about bringing my shoulder blades together instead. It does the same thing but the later of the two "feels" is just easier to take on board. (IMO)

What is these reference materials lump? sounds good. :thup:

Just side by sides of old and new swings, just inserts from pro's about key swing points you're working on.

 

[garyinderry]

He's a guy called Adam ledger down @ Kingswood Golf Centre (Thorne, Doncater area). He was the old assistant at selby but left to become a full time teaching pro. Really really nice lad and doesn't confuse you will too much technical information but more about hitting certain "feels".
For example, I'm a bit of a sloucher with my posture, rather than trying to just get me to pump my chest out he got me to think about bringing my shoulder blades together instead. It does the same thing but the later of the two "feels" is just easier to take on board. (IMO)


Just side by sides of old and new swings, just inserts from pro's about key swing points you're working on.

no wonder you hit lazer guided irons :thup: