Does God Exist?

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Does God Exist? If God is your Higher Power than we can all have a higher power and many if not most of us do in one shape of form. For many GOD stands for Good Orderly Direction - and you can get that from anywhere.
 
I am a yes. I was brought up Catholic, should that read brainwashed, and had the very dubious pleasure of a Catholic school and, for those who know, the harsh discipline of the Christian Brothers - and there was little christian in their methods of discipline. At the first chance I dropped the Catholic bit and very much keep my faith and religeon to myself. For example, my mother, a God faring Irish Catholic was convinced I was a non-believer and would burn in hell. She was stunned to find out, just before she died, that I had never lost my faith but just my belief in the controlling that the church does.

I don't think any less of a non-believer, nor do I think I'm any better. Its just who and what I am. I have a code of conduct that just happens to have some 'thing' at its pinnacle. That code of conduct is what the vast majority of the world believes, albeit with or without a God at the top.

I don't "ram it..." and in truth rarely talk about it. There's no need. It is for me what it is. If someone else wants to take it on-board there's more than enough 'experts' in the world to point them in the direction of a church and a book without me adding my muddled thoughts.
 
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JustOne said:
Well I don't beleive that bad things should be done in the name of religion... but they always have. Whether it's human sacrifice on an altar or someone getting stoned for having an affair. I can't dictate how religions should behave.... but I can choose not to be a part of it. God or no God.
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This feels like it has been written by someone with past experience, have you been stoned or are you just feeling guilty:cool:
 
sydney greenstreet said:
Just out of interest, When you pop your clogs will you have a service ? or will it be a Co-op send away and no Minister/Priest/Rabbi/ etc to send you off ?
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Mine will be a Humanist service and I already have a plot in the meadow/woodland burial site which is conveniently next door to - and can be seen from - the golf club.
 
The one thread I'd never thought I'd see on here.

Part of my family are deep believers, and in general terms, I really don't have an issue with it. Why would I. They don't ram it down my throat. However. On attending their church one day, the service centred around a Royal Marine (we're in Poole, so probably SBS), who had died in Afganistan. I'm more patriotic than most, but this service wasn't a funeral or a wake, it was a 'news' item. The preacher kept going on about how this young solider died serving his God. And this went on and on. My thought was what's the difference between him fighting for his God, and the 'enemy' fighting for his God? Especially when its essentially the same God. The service was 'spun' so much, it could of been written by Alistair Campbell. God propaganda doesn't even come close. And tbh I was sickened by it. It was intolerant of other beliefs. And I thought tolerance and understanding of others was a cornerstone of religion. Apparently not.

In answer to the op though.

I don't think so. But you cannot separate the argument of whether there's a God and religion I'm afraid.

Imagine dieing and getting to heaven (if it exists!) only to find the gatekeeper is of a different religious order to the one that you've followed whilst alive. You're kinda screwed!!!!
 
Science can prove the possible no existence of a god, but it can't dent a man’s faith..

I grew up in a very odd household, mother a devout catholic due to Italian heritage, father only going to church with mum for the big occasions to please her but a pretty much non believer.

So I have my faith but as a result of my dad’s grounding, I never discuss it with anyone that doesn't ask, I wouldn't tell anyone they have to believe or be damned for not believing. Nor would I say there is 100% a holy being we should bow down to or preach about to non-believing masses. I don't go to church, couldn't quote any biblical scripture or want to. But deep inside I have my faith and beliefs they are my own and wouldn't enforce on anyone.

Plus there really is only one god isn't there and his name is Ben Hogan.
 
Mankind is so very mentally weak. We can't accept that we're here for no reason other than to procreate, we want to live for ever and will create Gods in our image to serve our own purpose.... and fight in their name. We can't accept reality and therefore live a life surrounded by intoxicating drugs (nicotine/alcohol and others) and will defend that way of life as if it were 'freedom'.




..... pass the spliff!
 
JustOne said:
Mankind is so very mentally weak. We can't accept that we're here for no reason other than to procreate, we want to live for ever and will create Gods in our image to serve our own purpose.... and fight in their name. We can't accept reality and therefore live a life surrounded by intoxicating drugs (nicotine/alcohol and others) and will defend that way of life as if it were 'freedom'.




..... pass the spliff!
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I can't help but think your on the ALCOHOL after reading this utter tosh.......................
 
Fader said:
Science can prove the possible no existence of a god, but it can't dent a man’s faith..

Plus there really is only one god isn't there and his name is Ben Hogan.
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Hogan - I'm a believer - obviously...(now glad that I never asked Jim to fix it for me to meet him as I had always planned and wished I'd done)

Though tell me how science is ever going to be able to prove that something doesn't exist. You may not be able to prove something exists, but that does not prove that the something does not exist.
 
I am in the Richard Dawkins camp on this question, but I have no problem with people believing whatever they like, and there are some bizarre beliefs in the world, until the point when they try to enforce those views on others.

Faith is the acceptance of an assertion in the absence of any evidence, so to seek evidence is to not have faith. Nice trick, eh?
 
Fader said:
Plus there really is only one god isn't there and his name is Ben Hogan.
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And so for you there is a God - a Higher Power does exist for you. And that High Power - that God as you understand it - has nothing to do with religion, but you can look to your 'God' for Good Orderly Discipline - indeed that is precisely my relationship with Hogan.
 
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