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Define the term "BANDIT"
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Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
I think the pool term 'hustler' is pretty much equivalent to a golf 'bandit'.
Deliberately misleading people about your ability until there's something worthwhile at stake.
Deliberately misleading people about your ability until there's something worthwhile at stake.
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A player that regulary plays well under his handicap in non qualifyng games but consistantly in the buffer zone for qualifying comps.
Just my opinion like.
Just my opinion like.
evahakool
Challenge Tour Pro
When i first started playing it was slow progress only coming down to 26h/c in 2 years after playing in every comp. possible then in the 3rd year and once agian playing in all comp. and handing in all cards i won our 36 hole open comp.with a first round score of 84 net 58 whilst their was alot of freindly banter with my home course players there were some very annoyed players from another course and demanded from our club captian that i be cut for the second round.As this was not the case and having a good second round i won.
Was i a bandit on the day? i would say no as a bandit to me is someone who keeps their h/c artifically high by whatever means thus cheating another player of their rightfull prize.
After getting a big cut (cant remember if it was 5 or 6 shots) ifound it very hard to play to this h/c and it took 2 years with my h/c slowly going up another 3 shots to be able to compete again.
There will always be players who first start to play (mostly young) after a short while they will come in with a great score and walk away with the prizes.Dont think these type of players are bandits, its just the way golf is and if there honest they will soon find their level.
Was i a bandit on the day? i would say no as a bandit to me is someone who keeps their h/c artifically high by whatever means thus cheating another player of their rightfull prize.
After getting a big cut (cant remember if it was 5 or 6 shots) ifound it very hard to play to this h/c and it took 2 years with my h/c slowly going up another 3 shots to be able to compete again.
There will always be players who first start to play (mostly young) after a short while they will come in with a great score and walk away with the prizes.Dont think these type of players are bandits, its just the way golf is and if there honest they will soon find their level.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
Interesting this. Our club chamionship is played over 2 days, 18 holes each day and we have handicap adjustments after the 1st round.
I don't know the answer to this so was wondering if anyone knew the rules for 36 hole comps. Should handicaps be adjusted after round one, does it depend if it is over 2 days? I guess if it's an open it's pretty difficult to adjust handicaps after 1 round if both are played in the same day but I wondered if there were any CONGU guidelines?
What did you shoot in round 2 by the way?
evahakool
Challenge Tour Pro
As to the h/c question our captian was in contact with the golf union (not sure which one) and confirmed this was the right ruling.
I think i shot a 89 on the second round, after around 12 years the closest ive come to that first round score is 87
I think i shot a 89 on the second round, after around 12 years the closest ive come to that first round score is 87
Pro_V_wan_kenobi
Assistant Pro
Agree with most of this but if it is done intentionally then the name "bandit" is not strong enough. It is out and out cheating.
jammydodger
Tour Winner
You cannot cut handicaps in the middle of a competition. You can retrospectively cut after the comp has finished though. You finish the 36 hole comp with the h/c you started with and then do the 2 round adjustments afterwards
RGDave
Money List Winner
Sorry to say this, but you need to get over yourself.
If you've played to 4, then if I were you, I wouldn't even bother to expect to play anywhere with a clear conscience off a 20 h'cap.
Like I said, it upsets me to have to speak my mind.
RGDave
Money List Winner
I like this explanation. The only trouble is that there are some genuine players who can play to a lower level when there is no pressure but never get cut in q-comps due to the pressure/stress.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Of course it's cheating, that is the point. Someone shooting a very low score is not a bandit if their handicap is genuine, and is maintained as per the 3 points above, whereas someone failing those points IS a bandit, ergo he's a cheat.
Agree with most of this but if it is done intentionally then the name "bandit" is not strong enough. It is out and out cheating.
"Bandit" is just polite golf speak for "cheat"
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Got to agree, from the explanation given, your "20" should be nearer 6-8, and 8 is being generous.
Not necessarily the same, IMO.
You can be a golf hustler as well. But isn't that someone playing off scratch, and taking the money because the loser got conned into thinking they had the edge.
Not saying it's morally right, but it's not cheating.
Claiming a false handicap is cheating.
If I lost money to a hustler, then that's my fault for letting my ego get the better off me. If I lose money to a genuine bandit, then that's a different matter.
Wasn't there something in the news/gossip columns a while back about some footballers falling out over it for some stupid money bet ?
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