Custom Fitting Is Now Essential - It's True!!!!

[HughJars]

Just coincidence,or pot luck then ?

Talent for the game perhaps? You sure need to know HOW to use your stuff, but you don't need to know WHY a DG goes low, and a Nippon goes high.

There's a scratch player claims to have no time for custom fitting. There's you, listing your clubs and making a point of listing the shafts. Why? You don't believe in custom fitting, so what difference would what shafts you have in your clubs make?

 

[Mungoscorner]

Talent for the game perhaps? You sure need to know HOW to use your stuff, but you don't need to know WHY a DG goes low, and a Nippon goes high.

There's a scratch player claims to have no time for custom fitting. There's you, listing your clubs and making a point of listing the shafts. Why? You don't believe in custom fitting, so what difference would what shafts you have in your clubs make?

So i'm contradicting myself by listing the specs of my clubs ?
A scratch golfer's comments about custom fitting are irrelevant ?
My sketchy swing is what gives me a low ball flight,nothing to do with shaft choice,i could play badly with any brand/spec of shaft.
For every 28 handicapper who couldn't improve with his CF set of clubs,you'll find several more who did improve playing with a cheap set of clubs they got off the shelf.

 

[HughJars]

So i'm contradicting myself by listing the specs of my clubs ?

My sketchy swing is what gives me a low ball flight,nothing to do with shaft choice,i could play badly with any brand/spec of shaft.

clueless

 

[Mungoscorner]

clueless

If you say so.

 

[DCB]

It's been five years since the last rip roaring thread like this one.

Flopshot are you out there ? C'mon, your Forum needs you

Hope this continues to develop, might mean I don't need to watch 'strictly' tonight

 

[Midnight]

I disagree. Think it is important for irons.

I am thinking of treating myself to a through the bag review at Precision Golf. Has anyone done this? Any feedback appreciated as it isn't cheap - £199.

Thanks.

Hi mate,

just wondering if you decided to go through with this ? I would be very interested in your views if you had it done as I know it would be a fair review due to your view on the custom fit side . I saw you hit a few shots at H4H and would love that consistent swing that you have .

Midnight....

 

[Ethan]

There is a simple logic underlying this question, although not so simple that some have missed it.

The logical thread runs like this.

1. Do you accept that not all clubs are equally suitable for a given player. Would a 15 handicapper have the same results with a set of X shafted blades as a set of R shafted SGIs?.

OK, if you accept this, then you accept that there are some clubs with are more suitable than others, and there needs to be some way of identifying what is most suitable for a given player.

2. So how to select clubs. Do you just get the pro to say 'you look like a regular' and do it that way? Well, appearances can be deceptive, so that probably isn't a reliable method. Or perhaps the 'they are on sale at AG, they must be good' method? Hardly.

OK, so you now accept that some form of tailoring to the individual golfer is needed. That is known as 'fitting' by the way.

3. So the player hits a few shots with a demo club or two to see how he gets on.

At this stage, you have more or less accepted CF. Now we are only debating how the data from that fitted should be acquired and interpreted. Should it be based on the experienced eye of the pro, or based on the experienced eye of the pro armed with some measured data from a Launch Monitor.

If you think the latter is preferable, congratulations, you fully support Custom Fitting. If you think the former, then you need to explain how less information is more informative than more information.

 

[HughJars]

exactly Ethan, Mungo even clearly shows in his sig that he's been fitted in some way, yet says fitting is totally irrelevant.

I'm still waiting on him to explain how this can be when I've asked the question a couple of different ways.

 

[HughJars]

If you say so.

I do say so, you are hitting the lowest launching shaft available, there are many shafts (well, in all honesty any one would do) that will launch the ball higher. Just as some people naturally have a very high ball flight, and may benefit from going down the DG route, you would benefit by getting away from the worst shaft for you.

I'm assuming this of course based on you saying you hit the ball very low, and using only that as a defining characteristic, which is not a great starting point, but in fairness, better than your method of just going into the shop and buying something off the shelf that you don't even know the specs of, nor have even tried.

Did they just look shiny to you and you picked them? What made you choose your current clubs?

 

[Hobbit]

Yesterday I hit a RBZ driver with a stiff shaft, badly. Tried a Ping Anser driver with a stiff, badly, then swapped the shaft for a regular and saw an improvement but not by huge amounts. Then a 913D2 with a reg shaft......WOW!!

As well as the obvious, seen, results there was the Flightscope data. How on God's earth can you tell if you've got too high a spin rate, like 3600rpm, without a Flightscope type of equipment? And when can you say you've hit 2500rpm?

 

[Mungoscorner]

I do say so, you are hitting the lowest launching shaft available, there are many shafts (well, in all honesty any one would do) that will launch the ball higher. Just as some people naturally have a very high ball flight, and may benefit from going down the DG route, you would benefit by getting away from the worst shaft for you.

I'm assuming this of course based on you saying you hit the ball very low, and using only that as a defining characteristic, which is not a great starting point, but in fairness, better than your method of just going into the shop and buying something off the shelf that you don't even know the specs of, nor have even tried.

Did they just look shiny to you and you picked them? What made you choose your current clubs?

Certainly hit a nerve with you haven't i ?
You've now resorted to TRYING to be patronising and condescending,do you custom fit people for a living ?
Now,please show me irrefutable proof that somebody with a 28 handicap,of average height and build will improve as a direct result of custom fitting alone ?
And please don't use golfers from totally opposite ends of the spectrum (very tall,or very short).

Annyway,must dash,i'm due to play todays comp at 12.30.Probably wasting my time though,seeing as my clubs weren't custom fitted.

 

[HughJars]

do you custom fit people for a living ?

Yes.

 

[HughJars]

Now,please show me irrefutable proof that somebody with a 28 handicap,of average height and build will improve as a direct result of custom fitting alone ?

Why are you once again going back to total duffers, when I've said time and again that custom fitting will do little for them, in fact is just about an exercise in futility, they need a basic fit for length, and that's about it. I can only assume you're trolling and understand the benefits full well when you won;t answer the simple question, and repeat a question yourself that's already been answered twice?

We're talking about custom fitting, not magic cures.

So, for about the fourth time, did you just walk into a shop and buy the shiniest baubles, or was there, as Ethan points out, an element of custom fitting involved?

 

[Ethan]

Why are you once again going back to total duffers, when I've said time and again that custom fitting will do little for them, in fact is just about an exercise in futility, they need a basic fit for length, and that's about it. I can only assume you're trolling and understand the benefits full well when you won;t answer the simple question, and repeat a question yourself that's already been answered twice?

We're talking about custom fitting, not magic cures.

So, for about the fourth time, did you just walk into a shop and buy the shiniest baubles, or was there, as Ethan points out, an element of custom fitting involved?

Hugh, old chap, I think it is time to consider applying that old piece of internet forum advice, DNFTT.

The other party thinks fitting is only for people of abnormally short or tall stature, therefore doesn't know what he is wittering on about, and is unworthy of a response because he will not understand it.

 

[thecraw]

Why are you once again going back to total duffers, when I've said time and again that custom fitting will do little for them, in fact is just about an exercise in futility, they need a basic fit for length, and that's about it. I can only assume you're trolling and understand the benefits full well when you won;t answer the simple question, and repeat a question yourself that's already been answered twice?

We're talking about custom fitting, not magic cures.

So, for about the fourth time, did you just walk into a shop and buy the shiniest baubles, or was there, as Ethan points out, an element of custom fitting involved?

I think I'm living proof that custom fit makes you worse!

 

[HughJars]

I think I'm living proof that custom fit makes you worse!

Explain

 

[thecraw]

Handicap has gone from 4.2 up to 5.5 since getting c/f irons and a Scott Gourlay shaft fitting!

 

[CMAC]

I think I'm living proof that custom fit makes you worse!

I'm also unfortunately in that camp, I believe in it but my CS sessions to find a driver shaft (independent) bore no fruit whatsoever and the mizuno fitting last year cost me a lot of money in badly fitting now shinies, now gone back to clubs I bought of the shelf as a kid and a driver in the bargain bucket bag at AG for £60 that is totally the opposite of what my fitting stats said I needed...and I bought without even swinging it lol

go figure

 

[HughJars]

Handicap has gone from 4.2 up to 5.5 since getting c/f irons and a Scott Gourlay shaft fitting!

Is your iron play worse, are u just playing worse, or is the fitter ****?

 

[thecraw]

Is your iron play worse, are u just playing worse, or is the fitter ****?

No I'm just worse! On the verge of giving up as I've lost the love and enjoyment!