Court Upholds Gobbing in Public as Illegal

woody69 said:
Define what is important? Why is this less important than say the clearing of rubbish or graffiti? I'm fully behind the decision. Spitting is unnecessary and unhygienic. You say it get's washed away by the rain or what have you, but what if a child was to fall and put his hand in it before that happened? It can spread the H1N1 virus and other unpleasantaries.

I'm fully behind the theory that it's the small things like this that help build a better, more friendly society. If you live in a clean environment where petty small things are dealt with, it has a knock on affect to the bigger things.
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Completely with you on this^^^:thup:
 
Rooter said:
seriously, most ridiculous use of public funds to prosecute ever. (i am sure i will be proved wrong) ok so they fined two fella's £600. how much did this cost WF council? And i am sorry, how is it legally the same as littering? you spit, it dries up or dilutes and washes away with rain. its nothing more than a bit gross, its not actually harmful though or pollutant.

I am not condoning spitting on the street, its pretty gross, however i do think there are bigger fish to fry in society today before spitting...
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Spot on Rooter:thup:
 
Snelly said:
Good manners are one of the foundations of civilised society. Great to see.

Everyone on this thread who doesn't think this is a good thing or a valuable use of public resources is condoning spitting by default and I hope it is never my misfortune to be drawn to play golf with any of you.
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Sure we'll get over it
 
SocketRocket said:
Maybe we should stop prosecuting Burglars as the money would be better spent on dealing with murderers. Come on, think about it!
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Come on, think about it? :rofl:

Your comparison is ridiculous.

Anybody who thinks prosecuting for spitting is important or worthwhile is seriously deluded.

I wonder how many on this thread have had a tinkle on a golf course? :whistle:
 
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I'm happy for a prosecution to stand as a deterent to others, but a blanket prosecution would be a waste of resource. That said, it only came to court because the fellas in question failed to pay the on the spot fine. This kind of escalation would be rare.

Btw they were Eastern European, which should fit the agenda of some nicely :thup:
 
Birchy said:
Anybody who thinks prosecuting for spitting is important or worthwhile is seriously deluded.

I wonder how many on this thread have had a tinkle on a golf course? :whistle:
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Those who do could say EXACTLY the same about those who think it isn't important or worthwhile

And the golf course isn't generally a public place. No-one is saying you can't gob all over your own backyard or lounge. Why are you defending spitting? - or if you are not - then you say you don't like it but you won't do anything about it.
 
therod said:
I'm happy for a prosecution to stand as a deterent to others, but a blanket prosecution would be a waste of resource. That said, it only came to court because the fellas in question failed to pay the on the spot fine. This kind of escalation would be rare.

Btw they were Eastern European, which should fit the agenda of some nicely :thup:
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The background related issue is the extent to which the indigenous population and laws should be flexed or move from what is deemed acceptable behaviour to assimilate immigrants and their cultural norms into UK society.

I find anyone spitting in the street disgusting - sometimes we all have to and I try and do it very discretely and where it might cause not offense and impact on others. And I would not expect - say - the Nepalese in Aldershot (as I have used that example) to be treated differently in this context just because it is a cultural norm for them to spit.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Those who do could say EXACTLY the same about those who think it isn't important or worthwhile

And the golf course isn't generally a public place. No-one is saying you can't gob all over your own backyard or lounge. Why are you defending spitting? - or if you are not - then you say you don't like it but you won't do anything about it.
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Im not condoning it, it is wrong but there is many more things we should be spending public money on.

Anyone screaming for this as a good example who has had a tinkle on a golf course is a hypocrite in my opinion. Loads of golf courses have public right of way, do people check before they unzip? Do they hell :rofl:
 
Birchy said:
Come on, think about it? :rofl:

Your comparison is ridiculous.

Anybody who thinks prosecuting for spitting is important or worthwhile is seriously deluded.

I wonder how many on this thread have had a tinkle on a golf course? :whistle:
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I take a pee on the golf course, but then I step into the trees away from where a ball should go ever and well away from places like the tee. I don't just urinate in the middle of the fairway. If someone wanted to spit into a bin I'd have no issue with that (even if I can't understand the reason why)

How about people who think it is important to prosecute people for letting their dogs foul the footpaths? Are they deluded? It's on a similar level. The council has a budget allocated to deal with antisocial behaviour and littering etc and this falls under that umbrella
 
woody69 said:
I take a pee on the golf course, but then I step into the trees away from where a ball should go ever and well away from places like the tee. I don't just urinate in the middle of the fairway. If someone wanted to spit into a bin I'd have no issue with that (even if I can't understand the reason why)

How about people who think it is important to prosecute people for letting their dogs foul the footpaths? Are they deluded? It's on a similar level. The council has a budget allocated to deal with antisocial behaviour and littering etc and this falls under that umbrella
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Dog crap is the same level as spit? Yeah ok, course it is? :rolleyes:

What's people take on if somebody has a real bad cough and they cough up some spit onto floor by accident etc. Same substance, do they get prosecuted or let off? Surely that's littering just the same?

How about someone with a nose bleed and they spill blood on the floor? Prosecute them too?

If this is what our government blows money on then there is no wonder the country is on its knees.
 
Birchy said:
Dog crap is the same level as spit? Yeah ok, course it is? :rolleyes:

What's people take on if somebody has a real bad cough and they cough up some spit onto floor by accident etc. Same substance, do they get prosecuted or let off? Surely that's littering just the same?

How about someone with a nose bleed and they spill blood on the floor? Prosecute them too?

If this is what our government blows money on then there is no wonder the country is on its knees.
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With razor sharp logic and acerbic wit coupled with flawless reasoning and erudite debating like your post above, I can only assume that you are a highly paid barrister or similar. Probably from the same legal firm as Pinseeker.
 
Snelly said:
With razor sharp logic and acerbic wit coupled with flawless reasoning and erudite debating like your post above, I can only assume that you are a highly paid barrister or similar. Probably from the same legal firm as Pinseeker.
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Yet more dribble from The Great Snelly:rolleyes:
 
Birchy said:
Dog crap is the same level as spit? Yeah ok, course it is? :rolleyes:

What's people take on if somebody has a real bad cough and they cough up some spit onto floor by accident etc. Same substance, do they get prosecuted or let off? Surely that's littering just the same?

How about someone with a nose bleed and they spill blood on the floor? Prosecute them too?

If this is what our government blows money on then there is no wonder the country is on its knees.
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You're taking a bit of the straw man argument there. Since when did I say fining people for spitting means we prosecute someone because they have a nose bleed? Obviously that is a totally different scenario. Unless of course the person is deliberately snorting blood out their nose of course! Regarding the real bad cough, ever heard of a tissue? Never in my life have I had a cough and felt the need to spit up onto the floor because I can't control it or spit elsewhere a little more sanitary.

And as an aside, the country really isn't "on it's knees" last time I looked and utilising some of the allocated budget for anti social behaviour isn't going to do that.
 
woody69 said:
You're taking a bit of the straw man argument there. Since when did I say fining people for spitting means we prosecute someone because they have a nose bleed? Obviously that is a totally different scenario. Unless of course the person is deliberately snorting blood out their nose of course! Regarding the real bad cough, ever heard of a tissue? Never in my life have I had a cough and felt the need to spit up onto the floor because I can't control it or spit elsewhere a little more sanitary.

And as an aside, the country really isn't "on it's knees" last time I looked and utilising some of the allocated budget for anti social behaviour isn't going to do that.
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Im taking the straw man argument yet you rank leaving dog turd in a public place the same level as spit? :rofl:

Yeah the country is thriving too :rolleyes:
 
I can't believe anyone would defend it. It's certainly anti social and should be punished accordingly. There are definitely cultural differences at work, when I lived up north it was common place, not so much in Dorset!
 
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