Course ban on Adidas Adizero shoes....

[CMAC]

oh no, fellas, some of us have been a bit hasty, it looks like the rumours and someones OCD about footprints on a soft green could turn into something very serious indeed, it could spell the end of Adidas golf shoes and, God forbid, the demise of some courses that don't suck it up and ban the offending shoes.

Maybe compulsory measurements and weight testing scales on the first tee? maybe its not the shoe but the weight of a person or the size of their shoes hmmmm

This should be looked at by GM before any other publication gets the lowdown.

Name the club GB72 as it cant be the same one as the OP only heard rumours about this one and it looks like a proper club has already banned them, does it say if its any other Adidas shoes or manufacturers

 

[Crow]

Name the club GB72 as it cant be the same one as the OP only heard rumours about this one and it looks like a proper club has already banned them, does it say if its any other Adidas shoes or manufacturers

Not that I'd wish to promote other forums, but see here:
http://www.golfmagic.com/forum/golf-equipment/banned-shoes/56495.html

 

[GB72]

The club mentioned on the other forum is The Vale

 

[Chris13]

I went from using the tour 360 to using these adizero. I noticed a huge difference in the dents they left in the greens. So much so. I am wearing the old tour 360's whenever I can. They leak now so I can only use them on dry days. My club (Loch Ness golf club) shop has been promoting these on sale for a month or so, so I don't think they will be banning them any time soon, I however won't be buying a new pair. No matter how comfy they are.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Its the fact that they have football studs in the bottom that tears up the greens

Well it's not actually a "fact" because they don't have football studs in the bottom and "tearing" up greens is exaggerating once again

Unless you have seen different Adizero golf shoes that other people are wearing

 

[AlbertsTache]

Well it's not actually a "fact" because they don't have football studs in the bottom and "tearing" up greens is exaggerating once again

Unless you have seen different Adizero golf shoes that other people are wearing

I was making the comparison in looks, is it a Liverpool thing about picking up on "facts"?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I was making the comparison in looks, is it a Liverpool thing about picking up on "facts"?

Liverpool thing ??

Well when making factual statements at least ensure the fact is correct

 

[Dodger]

All I can say is I think certain clubs need to look into what their Greenstaff are doing to produce greens that are so soft it's causing them to be concerned about the marks being left by footwear.

Not something I have come across so far this winter and I have played a few courses in the last few weeks and my course can get fairly damp but the greens do not get that bad they leave foot indentations in them.:mmm:

 

[AlbertsTache]

Liverpool thing ??

Well when making factual statements at least ensure the fact is correct

Ok Rafa will do

 

[anotherdouble]

Hope not as that counts me out. I would be confined to the range only then.

 

[MadAdey]

I still think this is a way for the old guard to start trying to ban these modern style of golf shoes. I know from my place that a lot of people do not agree with shoes like this being worn and would go to any length to ban them. The reason I think this is because it just seems a coincidence that it is the adizero that are probably as far away from a traditional golf shoe as you get, are the ones getting picked on when other manufacturers make shoes that I think would cause a similar level of damage due to the sole design.

 

[Wildrover]

I have a pair of Ecco shoes that have quite deep blade style cleats on the bottom, I noticed that my footprints were leaving much more of a mark on soft greens than my playing partners so I no longer wear them in those conditions and have gone back to my FJ's in winter. I played with a guy who was in Adizeros yesterday, not a big guy at all, who was leaving terrible marks on the greens when everybody elses were barely visible. I pointed this out to him and he was mortified and said he would wear his other shoes in winter from now on. At the end of the day we all play on the greens so it is in all our interests to look after them as best we can, if these means not wearing the latest Carlos Fandango ultra lightweight shoe for a few months a year then so be it.
As for the Samba "golf shoe" don't get me started MadAdey, what is clearly a very successful model of trainer with a golf soul fitted does not a golf shoe make. And before I am accused of being an old stick in the mud I have no problem with the look of Adizero's, Ecco Streets etc but Samba's? Come on.

 

[cookelad]

Can only comment on what I've seen, and as I said earlier our guys wearing them in Spain in October on dry golf courses with good greens were making a heck of a mess, more than the rest of us, to the extent that at least 1 of them changed his shoes for FJ's for the rest of the week, and for the record these guys are best described as average height and weight.

 

[mikee247]

I played on Saturday with a someone in Zeros and he was making a huge mess of the greens. I was in my new Adicross tour's which were a less damaging and v comfortable by the way.... but there's no way the course will ban Zero's as they are sold in the pro shop!! I also think its ironic that the "street" style flat sole shoes are probably a lot better for the greens and course in general all year round but not seen as proper golf shoe by the purists!

 

[HickoryShaft]

Interesting thread, not least because I was looking at prices for Zero's and noticed they have dropped dramatically.

So I am now curious, is this a move by Addidas to quit stock before this issue is highlighted more widely or just the normal marketing machine kicking in before Christmas and possibly quitting stock before relaunching the shoe for 2014 with a new style?

It has certainly been a very popular shoe and I would not be suprised if it were for the latter reasons but it has me thinking now.

I am not adverse to a shoe that is seasonal - its what I do at the moment anyway with my current FJ's. I have retired the lightweight white pairs I wear over summer for the winter and have a couple of older black pairs in use now - one fully water proof and one much older that is still very good but leaks a little if the ground is very wet so I alternate them depending on the weather and course conditions. Reason for this - white pairs get so dirty in the winter I end up cleaning them every time I play (i.e laziness on my behalf)

I have looked at spikeless shoes and always beleived they would be a Summer only shoe if I got a pair, I also thought this about the lightweight Zero's although not for the reason suggested, more because I believed they would not be as warm being so lightweight.

Might pick up pair if the cost keeps dropping and put them away for next season!

 

[need_my_wedge]

Wow..... maybe it's not so much the shoe, more the way people walk in them? I don't really know, just a thought.

I was wearing Adizero's through the summer, very comfy shoe indeed, but first sign of rain they leaked a bit. this was beginning of October, when it was still mostly warm and sunny. On further inspection I found that they had a small split where the sole met the upper, took them back to American Golf, where the manager examined them and said "these are very light shoes, you should only wear them in the summer", to which I agreed but reminded him that we were still in the throws of mainly very good weather, and the split had nothing to do with the weather conditions. He acknowledged the split and replaced them on the spot, they are now away ready for next season. Aside from the torn upper, my one observation of the shoes, is that the sole is actually quite hard in comparison to other golf shoes. There is very little give in the heel, so much so that you can see the sole scraping away when you walk on hard or stony ground. Most other shoes have a more softer feel in the heel/ sole, maybe that has something to do with it, which may be exacerbated by the way some individuals walk?

I know there are only thee or four of us at my gaff wearing Adizero's, I certainly haven't noticed me damaging any greens in them. I can say though, that during the medal two weeks ago, I was playing late in the comp (not wearing Adizero's), it was a bit wet out and some of the greens were covered in footmarks. I'll lay a pound to a penny that the majority of the imprints were nothing to do with Adizero....

Individual courses have a right to do as they see fit, but banning just the one shoe seems a little short sighted to me. I'm inclined to believe this is more a combination of weather conditions, shoes and the way different individuals walk.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Interesting thread, not least because I was looking at prices for Zero's and noticed they have dropped dramatically.

So I am now curious, is this a move by Addidas to quit stock before this issue is highlighted more widely or just the normal marketing machine kicking in before Christmas and possibly quitting stock before relaunching the shoe for 2014 with a new style?

Answer B. There's no way Adidas and their fleet of highly paid corporate lawyers will let this become a trend. And can you imagine it, golf clubs already have the reputation of having too many rules telling you what you can and cant do/wear etc. And they want to make the game more inclusive by then telling you what brand of shoe you can wear? Will they come up with a list of conforming shoes? Will you have to stand in front of the starter and let them check your footware?

Not sure how much of this is some fuddy duddy clubs railing against the new trainer style shoes by claiming they damage the green more. But that ship has sailed now and it ain't going back to port, me hearties.

What next, banning high handicappers as they may damage the fairways more?

Oh, hold on, what's that, some clubs do that already??.....

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Couple of photo's in our club entrance hall - taken of surface of a green last week. Looks like a whole load of unrepaired pitch marks until you see they are in the shape of a shoe. Yup. Ice building up on soft spikes and players not clearing the ice before walking on the putting green. Not good. No idea if the problem was one player wearing one type of shoe; whether it's a general ice-ssue with soft spikes - though I've not noticed it in the past - or with a new sort of soft 'spike'.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

...Will you have to stand in front of the starter and let them check your footware?

Well you do when you are going onto the football or rugby pitch so maybe ...

 

[AlbertsTache]

What next, banning high handicappers as they may damage the fairways more?

That's a great shout, how much are membership fee's?:rofl: