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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Foxholer said:
How are you certain those were the places the virus was caught? Were they the only places they visited? Could it have been picked up on the way to or from the particular venue(s)?
While it's certainly possible
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I am 100% certain, as one had been isolating for 5 days before an out patient visit and had only visited a fully masked supermarket 2 days before isolation. the other lives in sheltered housing and had visited a fully masked supermarket twice in the previous 7 days. Neither had any other contact, they both walked to the supermarkets and the one drove himself to the hospital.
 
PNWokingham said:
Just noticed that Denmark, last week, dropped all covid-related laws as the virus now no longer deemed a critical threat to society - and this is despite a massive surge in cases way ahead of UK and other countries. They are also admitting that you cannot control the spread of this infection even with severe restictions

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The major difference (and, in fact, similarity) between the Danish approach and the NZ one is because of the priority of both countries - to avoid overwhelming their hospitals. In Denmark, the cases per million indicate over a third of of their population has been infected. In NZ, it is about 1 percent of that figure. So while Denmark is heading towards 'herd immunity', NZ is nowhere near that point and the threat of hospitals being overwhelmed very much still exists, even with a relatively high vaccination rate.
I'm pretty sure, however, that Omicron WILL spread throughout NZ and herd immunity will also be achieved there too - it's the only possible 'solution' imo.
FWIW, Australia seems to be in pretty much the same situation as NZ, though with perhaps rather more/more obvious internal opposition.
Both Aus and NZ were able to 'close' borders, unlike almost every other sizeable country.
 
D-S said:
I am 100% certain, as one had been isolating for 5 days before an out patient visit and had only visited a fully masked supermarket 2 days before isolation. the other lives in sheltered housing and had visited a fully masked supermarket twice in the previous 7 days. Neither had any other contact, they both walked to the supermarkets and the one drove himself to the hospital.
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Highly likely, but I wouldn't be 100% certain!
I also agree re masking not being a 'perfect' defence btw. But it's a simple act that, supposedly, helps. So I've no issue with doing so and struggle to understand why others don't. It seems more ego related than any health/freedom argument to me!
 
Foxholer said:
Highly likely, but I wouldn't be 100% certain!
I also agree re masking not being a 'perfect' defence btw. But it's a simple act that, supposedly, helps. So I've no issue with doing so and struggle to understand why others don't. It seems more ego related than any health/freedom argument to me!
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I'm with you on this one. I'd be happy to continue to wear a mask if it was going to help other people not catch it. I'm amazed that many of the "we need to learn to live with it" crowd are also the ones that refuse to wear masks. How is a vulnerable person that needs to use public transport or go shopping meant to "learn to live with it" if other people won't wear masks and therefore increase the risk of the vulnerable person catching it?
 
Foxholer said:
What a ridiculous suggestion!
And FWIW, economic policy seems very much like Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle...Any implimentation changes the rules so much that a new policy is required!
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So I must assume you are an expert economist, econometrician and well read in medicines and epidemiology....

I think a word you are looking for and seem very fond of using is twaddle.
 
drdel said:
So I must assume you are an expert economist, econometrician and well read in medicines and epidemiology....

I think a word you are looking for and seem very fond of using is twaddle.
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You would be stupid to make that assumption!
I suggest you check your meds! The twaddle you've posted above and earlier is vastly different to your normal quality - even in your regular put-downs!
Or cut down on the lunchtime alcohol consumption!
 
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Foxholer said:
You would be stupid to make that assumption!
I suggest you check your meds! The twaddle you've posted above and earlier is vastly different to your normal quality - even in your regular put-downs!
Or cut down on the lunchtime alcohol consumption!
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Oi @Foxholer , if you are going to dismiss something as twaddle, you have to explain why it is twaddle.

Otherwise you are just adding to the twaddle ?

Goes for everyone, ?
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Oi @Foxholer , if you are going to dismiss something as twaddle, you have to explain why it is twaddle.

Otherwise you are just adding to the twaddle ?

Goes for everyone, ?
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The inclusion of the word 'must' was why!
Without that, the post was merely an inference/opinion.
But as posted, it's...well, you know what!. There is no requirement to 'must assume' that! In fact, the two words in quotes are normally /very often mutually-exclusive!
 
Foxholer said:
The inclusion of the word 'must' was why!
Without that, the post was merely an inference/opinion.
But as posted, it's...well, you know what!. There is no requirement to 'must assume' that! In fact, the two words in quotes are normally /very often mutually-exclusive!
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Pure Twaddle as I have absolutely no idea what you are prattling on about
 
I popped into local Sainsbury's this afternoon.
No real change in numbers with/without masks. May be force of habit though.
 
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