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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Kaz said:
Covid-denialism by certain posters in this thread is now reaching the ridiculous stage.
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I think everyone gets frustrated with the situation and sometimes want to question well why is this happening.. why have they done this or not done that.. thats natural .. especially after this long

however the flat out deniers are just plain mental.
 
Kaz said:
Covid-denialism by certain posters in this thread is now reaching the ridiculous stage.
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Disagree, I think you can have your views on restrictions, for/against, without being a denier. Whilst we have a varied range of views/opinions on Covid I haven’t seen any posts that I would class as ‘denialism’.
 
BiMGuy said:
We now live in a world where everyone has been told and believes that their opinion is just as important as everyone else’s, even if that option is completely contradictory to the truth.

People now seem to struggle with the concept that they can have their own opinions but not their own facts.
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Does my head in the whole "This is MY truth" thing. No, it's not. It's either THE truth or it's wrong. There is no my truth or your truth, there's just the truth.

EDIT - just realised that might come across as having a go at you which wasn't the intention of my post at all. I didn't mean you personally when I put "your truth", just in general.
 
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Kaz said:
Covid-denialism by certain posters in this thread is now reaching the ridiculous stage.
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Not denial at all, I just think we are now in the place we were aiming for…NHS protected, vulnerable protected, vast majority of people double/triple jabbed therefore reducing Covid to a minor illness. It’s been said and I agree that we need to learn to live with Covid, it will not go away so like seasonal flu we need to look after the vulnerable but the majority of people need to just carry on.
 
Foxholer said:
Tashy,

You/they've made the same blunder I did some time back!

The 16,133 is the INCREASE over yesterday's figures!
So confirmed Omicron cases for the period were 159,204
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I think this is why I said me head is spinning.

That said, day six and still positive. Missis T if she is negative I think will go and see the grandsproggs and probably come back sometime in March ?
 
Something that needs to be remembered , I think.
That is, for some old and vulnerable people, Covid can be like the IRA once said about their efforts .
"You've got to be lucky all the time, we only need to be lucky ( infect you) once"

I'm not saying live in fear of this, but there are some times that some people have to be very careful.
 
A pal OF mine has said he is not golfing today coz he has a cold. I have put on our Whattsapp group that he should have a PCR. Why? Just over a year ago he told everyone his missis was going for a COVID test ( whilst stood on the 11th tee) . Three days later he tested positive and the NHS app pinged us and cost us 10 days golf. It did not go down well he was and still is so Blase’.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Something that needs to be remembered , I think.
That is, for some old and vulnerable people, Covid can be like the IRA once said about their efforts .
"You've got to be lucky all the time, we only need to be lucky ( infect you) once"

I'm not saying live in fear of this, but there are some times that some people have to be very careful.
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My mum was a nurse for a little over 40 years....she worked on geriatric ward looking after old people and there are 2 main things that stick in my mind:

1. She saw more old men's Willies than I've had hot dinners.

2. Flu/pneumonia was always known as "old man's best friend" amongst the nurses..... People in latter stages of life and with often little quality/poor health were " done a favour" by contracting it.

This may be seen as morbid by some, but she dealt with life and death more often than any of us should ever have to, and with that comes a cold sense of matter of fact.

I see a future now where each winter a covid style virus will become the new friend.
 
Billysboots said:
Indeed. Although I suspect that is perhaps aimed at those wanting to engage in professional debate, not a bunch of lay people on a golf forum.
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Most of us are lay people in respect of the epidemiology of a viral pandemic, but some of us have done very detailed and complex system state modelling and estimation and so have at least a pretty good ideal of the nature of the statistical analysis and modelling being carried out and provided to Sage in support of its advice and input to government decision making. I get frustrated when that analysis is misrepresented by the media and by those who should really, and probably do, know better. And as that misrepresentation is not confined to any specific point of view I hope it is clear that I am not being ‘partisan’ or ‘biased’ in any way in expressing those frustrations.
 
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road2ruin said:
They also only model what they are asked to I.E. whatever suits the agenda of the day be it positive vibes or let’s lock everyone down type things.
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It would be a pretty crap scientist who only did what other non-experts wanted!

A good analyst, scientist or modeller would build the stimulated environment from their knowledge and the lacuna of evidence in the field. The testing would look at how well it represents the current knowns and then by taking values to the left and right of arc and probabilities associated with the independent variables attempt to get at some of the known unknowns.

No expert I know would be led by the nose and model/simulate nonsensical scenarios.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Most of us are lay people in respect of the epidemiology of a viral pandemic, but some of us have done very detailed and complex system state modelling and estimation and so have at least a pretty good ideal of the nature of the statistical analysis and modelling being carried out and provided to Sage in support of its advice and input to government decision making.
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That’s nice.

So how does that help the 95% or more on this forum that this doesn’t apply to?
 
drdel said:
Your disdain doesn't alter the fact SILH is right.
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He may well be right. But in terms of a general discussion about a very complex global pandemic, which is taking place on a golf forum largely not populated by statistical and medical experts, his point is actually rather pointless.

EDIT: Or are you also joining the ranks of forum members who seem to think that those of us who aren’t experts in relation to the management of this pandemic should have our observations belittled, dismissed or patronised?
 
Billysboots said:
He may well be right. But in terms of a general discussion about a very complex global pandemic, which is taking place on a golf forum largely not populated by statistical and medical experts, his point is actually rather pointless.

EDIT: Or are you also joining the ranks of forum members who seem to think that those of us who aren’t experts in relation to the management of this pandemic should have our observations belittled, dismissed or patronised?
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Many posts have made disparaging comments about the scientists, medics and modellers, unchallenged this risks perpetuating myths. It has nothing to do with belittling, insulting or dismissing the opinions of anyone.
 
drdel said:
Many posts have made disparaging comments about the scientists, medics and modellers, unchallenged this risks perpetuating myths. It has nothing to do with belittling, insulting or dismissing the opinions of anyone.
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I must assume that you have at least one contributor on your ignore list, then!!
 
drdel said:
It would be a pretty crap scientist who only did what other non-experts wanted!

A good analyst, scientist or modeller would build the stimulated environment from their knowledge and the lacuna of evidence in the field. The testing would look at how well it represents the current knowns and then by taking values to the left and right of arc and probabilities associated with the independent variables attempt to get at some of the known unknowns.

No expert I know would be led by the nose and model/simulate nonsensical scenarios.
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You were doing great till you came up the (pompous?) “known unknowns.” “Stimulated environment,” really…

Pardon my ignorance but that just reads as someone trying to be clever, and failing.
 
adam6177 said:
My mum was a nurse for a little over 40 years....she worked on geriatric ward looking after old people and there are 2 main things that stick in my mind:

1. She saw more old men's Willies than I've had hot dinners.

2. Flu/pneumonia was always known as "old man's best friend" amongst the nurses..... People in latter stages of life and with often little quality/poor health were " done a favour" by contracting it.

This may be seen as morbid by some, but she dealt with life and death more often than any of us should ever have to, and with that comes a cold sense of matter of fact.

I see a future now where each winter a covid style virus will become the new friend.
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Just remember this post when you get to that age - 1. If you can...2. If you make it that far! :rolleyes:
 
Ethan said:
See, there is the problem. Your sense of manhood seems to be threatened if everyone does not agree with you, so you feel the need to throw in a little barb. That is a sign of inadequacy and/or self-loathing. I think you belittle, dismiss and patronise yourself with some of your comments. Therapy might help, and if not, perhaps surgery.
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Please, please tell me you can see the breathtaking hypocrisy in every single word of this post!

Absolutely staggering.
 
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