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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Foxholer said:
It doesn't!

But it''s so bleeding frustrating that such 'sheep' can be controlled by news media!
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Frustrating as it may be, that’s always the danger of trying to debate a subject as complex as this on an Internet forum packed with people from diverse, largely non-expert backgrounds!

It’s equally frustrating to be someone who doesn’t possess the knowledge, and I am happy to hold my hand up, and see some of the responses from the so-called experts. So it cuts both ways.
 
Billysboots said:
Frustrating as it may be, that’s always the danger of trying to debate a subject as complex as this on an Internet forum packed with people from diverse, largely non-expert backgrounds!

It’s equally frustrating to be someone who doesn’t possess the knowledge, and I am happy to hold my hand up, and see some of the responses from the so-called experts. So it cuts both ways.
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One of the most frustrating things I find with the handling of this pandemic? Its discussed without political input. That I totally understand.

I look forward to the public enquiry. And the subsequent fallout on here over that.

That said, Ave not been feeling much festive love on the forum the last few days ?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Totally agree. Making me wonder about the mental health benefits of being here. Only a small number of people that look for an argument in any post but dragging the whole place down
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Ave been riddled with COVID. Ave seen three people since December 23rd. I would of hoped to spend a bit more time talking rammel on the forum. Seeing how some of he threads have gone. I have avoided being tipped over the edge and given a few threads a miss.
 
Billysboots said:
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So how does that help the 95% or more on this forum that this doesn’t apply to?
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As, perhaps, part of the 5% (a Statistician by education; IT by training and vocation - including a period with my Dept of Statistics) I'd suggest you just live with what the Govt deems best for you. They are actually trying to do the best for the country, under some pretty severe circumstances. But have no feeling of guilt voting them out at the earliest opportunity if that's how you really feel! That's just politics (oops!)!

The most important thing though is....Trust the Press at least 20% less than you trust the Government! They have a completely different focus - and it's NOT the betterment of the overall population!
 
This is encouraging. We are not seeing a massive jump in hospitalisations due to omicron that some experts expected. Of the 6245 beds occupied by covid patients on 21 Dec, nearly 30% are "incidental" covid - ie they are in for something else but tested positive. The total 6245 was only up by 259 the previosus week and only 45 of this increase (circa 20%) were admitted because of covid.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...hould-treated-caution-many-patients-admitted/
 
PNWokingham said:
This is encouraging. We are not seeing a massive jump in hospitalisations due to omicron that some experts expected. Of the 6245 beds occupied by covid patients on 21 Dec, nearly 30% are "incidental" covid - ie they are in for something else but tested positive. The total 6245 was only up by 259 the previosus week and only 45 of this increase (circa 20%) were admitted because of covid.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...hould-treated-caution-many-patients-admitted/
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When restrictions were dropped earlier this year Covid related hospitalisations were around 1,000, they're now over 8,000 but still low in relation to the increase in infections. The vaccination program has been a fantastic success story and it will be interesting to see how the new antiviral drugs affect the hospitalisation rates.
 
I'm currently isolating with Covid. I'm assuming I have omicron as I don't have any symptoms. I did go on my treadmill and think "stuff that" after 5 minutes though. My friend's and colleagues who had covid earlier in the year had it bad in comparison despite being double jabbed.
Could the new strain act as a fire break? Does anyone know if omicron antibodies help against other variants?
 
PNWokingham said:
This is encouraging. We are not seeing a massive jump in hospitalisations due to omicron that some experts expected. Of the 6245 beds occupied by covid patients on 21 Dec, nearly 30% are "incidental" covid - ie they are in for something else but tested positive. The total 6245 was only up by 259 the previosus week and only 45 of this increase (circa 20%) were admitted because of covid.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...hould-treated-caution-many-patients-admitted/
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This is indeed good news. Fingers crossed it continues once the effects of Xmas mixing is added to the numbers.

I think it's definitely time for the number of cases to be downgraded in terms of importance in the figures. Yes, they will affect workplaces with people isolating but don't seem to be correlating to hospitalisations and deaths.

As an example the rolling 7 day average for total cases in the UK is 872.5 per 100k population, in Germany it is 306.3 and in France 551.9. The rolling 7 day average for deaths in those countries is UK - 84.4, Germany - 238 and France - 177.4. We are testing far more than other countries so will be finding more cases but fortunately those cases do not seem to be leading to deaths. We have similar vaccine rollout success as the other two countries but are seeing far fewer deaths.

Over the last 7 days Germany have had almost three times as many deaths as UK and France twice as many. Is there any logical reason for this with Omicron being milder than previous versions? Is it just because Germany and France did better at the start of the pandemic in protecting the vulnerable and therefore have more in that category alive now who are being seriously affected, whereas we had very high numbers at the start and therefore have fewer vulnerable people now to get badly affected? In the early stages our numbers of deaths was horrendous compared to most other countries in Europe (bar probably Italy) but now others such as France and Germany are, unfortunately, catching up.
 
hovis said:
I'm currently isolating with Covid. I'm assuming I have omicron as I don't have any symptoms. I did go on my treadmill and think "stuff that" after 5 minutes though. My friend's and colleagues who had covid earlier in the year had it bad in comparison despite being double jabbed.
Could the new strain act as a fire break? Does anyone know if omicron antibodies help against other variants?
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The short answer is, Yes - possibly. Only in the early stages of the science on this but the early findings look promising.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/28/health/covid-omicron-antibodies-delta.html
 
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