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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Pathetic Shark said:
Everyone has the right to decide whether they want the vaccine or not. What cannot be negotiable is everyone else having to suffer continuous restrictions because of them.

No vaccine? Fine - stay inside, don't go to pubs, don't go on holiday, don't mix with other people. Your choice.
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But people are allowed, have been and are doing that without their vaccines already?
Once the majority have been vaccinated and we shift back into a lockdown come autumn who will you blame then?
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Amber means essential travel only - and according to Matt Hancock and the one in charge that absolutely does not encompass a need for a holiday...and so 150 flights out of U.K. yesterday filled with travellers with essential travel needs...of course...yes. Everything clear and being followed.
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Without going Policitcal, the failure to make it law instead of just guidelines makes it impossible for everyone

Cancellations for those who say moved a flight from last year won't be done if the flight is flying as they could travel

Ryan air offering cheap prices to amber places , people will no doubt see as a cheap way to get around having PCR tests (cost wise) as they would be paying about the same as going to a green country mayb

If they work from home they could isolate easy when at home

It's not law only guidelines so why on earth would they stick to it?

Then you have the Indian varrient that's taken over

We gave a 4 day window for people to come back .. all cases traced back to them people I believe I read somewhere?

Maybe going forward we could say right everyone back. You will have to quarantine but we will pay for it .. as it's cheaper than lockdown
 
pauljames87 said:
That I agree with entirely, and if facts are incorrectly stated should be corrected

Whitty stated the vaccine was a choice and he believed everyone should have the right to choose wasn't it? But In his opinion everyone should want to take it

Nobody should be shamed into taking
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People shouldn't be shamed, but they should be made aware that they do bear a degree of social responsibility both for the risk of making other people sick but also from the burden placed on society if they themselves get sick, for example displacing others from ICU beds. They should also be provided with accurate information. And in some cases, they should expect to trade some privileges or opportunities if they do not wish to get vaccinated, for example they can't work in certain healthcare roles and may not be able to travel to some places.
 
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pauljames87 said:
Without going Policitcal, the failure to make it law instead of just guidelines makes it impossible for everyone

Cancellations for those who say moved a flight from last year won't be done if the flight is flying as they could travel

Ryan air offering cheap prices to amber places , people will no doubt see as a cheap way to get around having PCR tests (cost wise) as they would be paying about the same as going to a green country mayb

If they work from home they could isolate easy when at home

It's not law only guidelines so why on earth would they stick to it?

Then you have the Indian varrient that's taken over

We gave a 4 day window for people to come back .. all cases traced back to them people I believe I read somewhere?

Maybe going forward we could say right everyone back. You will have to quarantine but we will pay for it .. as it's cheaper than lockdown
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It is pretty clear the Govt strategy is now 'We have done everything we can to open up the economy and safeguard the population, but some selfish people didn't take our advice'.
 
Ethan said:
It is pretty clear the Govt strategy is now 'We have done everything we can to open up the economy and safeguard the population, but some selfish people didn't take our advice'.
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Operation blame the public

I mean as of Monday we could hug people

But be careful..
 
I'm starting to get annoyed with people.

Saturday morning, we were due a family day out for my lads birthday. my smallest 2 woke with a cough and a temp, so that was it, all thoughts of leaving the house off. Lateral flow tests are done, both negative. Lots of colds going around. Get to Monday, they are still showing a temperature, so off school. Tuesday, still hot and with croup-sounding coughs, so that's it, PCR tests booked and we were in for the 8 am session that morning!
All kids off school, wife cancels going to the office, mum phoned and banned from visiting!!
Got the results at 2 AM today (Less than 24 hours for results!!!!) and both negative, both woken up with no temp's so everyone back to normal. Phew!

Now that's how it should be, if everyone did that, we would be in a better position.

My mate at school who has a kid in the same class as mine, WhatsApp's me yesterday afternoon, 'Need to moan and you are not here (I was isolating!!), a mum here chatting away to another mum with her 8yr old in the queue. Tells her mate he is not in school because he has been for a covid test and they are waiting on the results!!!'


WTF is wrong with people???
 
pauljames87 said:
Operation blame the public

I mean as of Monday we could hug people

But be careful..
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Where did the government suggest hugging people? They merely made the easement of restrictions such that people and families could meet indoors.
That would inevitably mean some would hug. But creating situations where something is possible is not the same as recommending it.
From what I saw it was the Media hyping up the hugging!
 
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Should probably be a random irritation but its covid related. My son finishes school next week. Ordinarily he would be on study leave but as there's no exams this year he's finished. You would think after missing nearly a year of face to face teaching they might keep the school year going just this once until July to help those that have missed out on so much, but oh no. And teachers wonder why they get so little sympathy each time they call yet another strike ?
 
pauljames87 said:
Lol if you think so.. if and I say if we get a surge and another lockdown the blame will firmly be on the public for being careless
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And quite rightly. (I am reading your post that you are being somewhat sarcastic and think it is the government fault for allowing meetings and huggings. If you are being strictly as written, my apologies)

People are now allowed to travel to Durdle Dor, but the government isn't responsible for those that go "tomb stoning " there?
 
Swinglowandslow said:
And quite rightly. (I am reading your post that you are being somewhat sarcastic and think it is the government fault for allowing meetings and huggings. If you are being strictly as written, my apologies)

People are now allowed to travel to Durdle Dor, but the government isn't responsible for those that go "tomb stoning " there?
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What about last summer eat out to help out was firmly pushed

Soon as that happened the surge of cases could be linked to that

But it was the public's fault for going out and not being careful?

It's like this amber list .. imo it should be all travel banned but we are where we are but by making it guidance not law they put it on the person to make the risk and some will .. and some will lose out money because it's guidance and not law flight refunds don't have to be paid

These mostly are holidays moved from last year to this year rather than refunded as people thought it was the best option
 
pauljames87 said:
What about last summer eat out to help out was firmly pushed

Soon as that happened the surge of cases could be linked to that
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No it didnt. It was fine all summer, it didnt start ramping up until late in the autumn when the weather turned crap and all the religious festivals started. You want to blame the government for everything but there comes a point when they've done all they can and people have to take responsibility for following the guidance and the rules set out to protect them.
 
SaintHacker said:
No it didnt. It was fine all summer, it didnt start ramping up until late in the autumn when the weather turned crap and all the religious festivals started. You want to blame the government for everything but there comes a point when they've done all they can and people have to take responsibility for following the guidance and the rules set out to protect them.
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This is getting far too Policitcal but if you think last summer all they could do was done then sorry but your wrong there
 
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