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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SaintHacker said:
No it didnt. It was fine all summer, it didnt start ramping up until late in the autumn when the weather turned crap and all the religious festivals started. You want to blame the government for everything but there comes a point when they've done all they can and people have to take responsibility for following the guidance and the rules set out to protect them.
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Not what this study found and the autumn increase was made worse when Schools and Uni’s opened early Sept.

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/econo...ns_up_by_between_8_and_17_new_research_finds/
 
SaintHacker said:
No it didnt. It was fine all summer, it didnt start ramping up until late in the autumn when the weather turned crap and all the religious festivals started. You want to blame the government for everything but there comes a point when they've done all they can and people have to take responsibility for following the guidance and the rules set out to protect them.
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But let’s not forget the 5 day Christmas holiday around which many worked their plans for the festive season, a holiday period that became a single day...and threw all their plans into disarray...unless...and then there was a huge spike in the weeks after Christmas and New Year.

But again, simple observations around why things are and have not been so easy and clear cut drift instantly into the policitcal and cannot be discussed.

My religious Christmas was severely impacted by the pandemic but we adhered absolutely to what was required of us so don’t go blaming religion. As you have said - blame people.
 
No reaction like last time to jab number two thank goodness. Just hoping the stuff went in as it was a weird one - she took what seemed like ages after I felt the needle go in and shuffled around a bit then said "ummm, yes that's fine"! Arm hurts so it must have :-)
 
SaintHacker said:
No it didnt. It was fine all summer, it didnt start ramping up until late in the autumn when the weather turned crap and all the religious festivals started. You want to blame the government for everything but there comes a point when they've done all they can and people have to take responsibility for following the guidance and the rules set out to protect them.
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If only we had reached the point where they had done all they could have done.

The general view in the medical community is that while schools and colleges re-opening and the fatally bad decision (driven by intentional consultations with known Covid-deniers) not to have a circuit break were big factors, Eat Out circulated a lot of endemic disease and set the tinder, so to speak, which then allowed other mistakes to make it catch fire.
 
AmandaJR said:
No reaction like last time to jab number two thank goodness. Just hoping the stuff went in as it was a weird one - she took what seemed like ages after I felt the needle go in and shuffled around a bit then said "ummm, yes that's fine"! Arm hurts so it must have :)
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I had no reaction to 2nd jab too, not even a sore arm. The person giving your jab was probably checking there was no backflash of blood into the syringe which would have indicated it had hit a blood vessel.
 
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Ethan said:
Eat Out circulated a lot of endemic disease and set the tinder, so to speak, which then allowed other mistakes to make it catch fire.
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Did it though? The scheme started in August, yet we didnt see any big spikes until a few weeks after the schools reopened. If this virus moves that quickly and shows up within a couple of weeks of infection as they say then surely we'd have been seeing spikes late August/ early september?
 
pauljames87 said:
That's between 8 and 17% that could have been avoided.
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And at what collateral cost? How many businesses were saved, how many people are still in a job because of it, haven't fallen behind on their rent or mortgage, lost their homes, fallen into depression and possibly suicide? We'll never know the figures but its a valid argument
 
SaintHacker said:
And at what collateral cost? How many businesses were saved, how many people are still in a job because of it, haven't fallen behind on their rent or mortgage, lost their homes, fallen into depression and possibly suicide? We'll never know the figures but its a valid argument
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Track and trace costs the amount spent on them every single.person in the UK could have been given £500k

So £500k I doubt many would be worried about their rent , mortgage etc and many more would stay at home do the right thing
 
pauljames87 said:
Track and trace costs the amount spent on them every single.person in the UK could have been given £500k

So £500k I doubt many would be worried about their rent , mortgage etc and many more would stay at home do the right thing
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By my simple maths thats 38 and a half TRILLION pounds. Don't think track and trace costs quite that much...?
 
pauljames87 said:
Track and trace costs the amount spent on them every single.person in the UK could have been given £500k

So £500k I doubt many would be worried about their rent , mortgage etc and many more would stay at home do the right thing
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And all those screaming last year for a quality track and trace system would have been told to swivel and just suck it up.
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing, specially when it bolsters your side of the argument.
 
Beezerk said:
And all those screaming last year for a quality track and trace system would have been told to swivel and just suck it up.
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing, specially when it bolsters your side of the argument.
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Very true

However my point which is being lost is that the gov haven't done all they can and have blamed the public at every stage it goes wrong

So I'm prepared to be blamed again
 
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