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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Come on, no government can spell out every circumstance. Credit had go to to be given for people to use common sense within the "new freedom".
Should they have said' you can meet indoors but no touching?'
Clearly an unsustainable advice. Because they know that saying you can meet up as family and friends indoors will mean some will go overboard with the touching and proximity in enclosed rooms for a long time, and with whom, and some will still use an element of caution etc.
So, again, everything isn't the governments responsibility.
Talking about the media reporting simply reflecting what we are being told - not what the government is saying. If advice is not definitive and allows discretion, then media will use their discretion and report as they feel best suits their audience.
 
I think we need to remember there is a big difference between refusing the vaccine, and not having a vaccine due to other reasons... a lot of bandwagon-jumping and assumptions that unvaccinated people are that way by choice. (not specific to the above, but I think its worth raising)

There aren't many good medical reasons not to have it. Allergy to specific components of the vax is pretty much the only one. Pregnancy is a relative one and is a temporary state anyway.
 
There aren't many good medical reasons not to have it. Allergy to specific components of the vax is pretty much the only one. Pregnancy is a relative one and is a temporary state anyway.

Is there any difference between the component elements of the various vaccines to allow people with certain allergies to have one of the vaccines? Even with the potential for an allergic reaction, is it possible to monitor and treat the symptoms of the reaction whilst the vaccine does its thing (maybe possible now with free hospital beds) or am I watching too many US medical dramas and these things do not happen outside of House etc.
 
There aren't many good medical reasons not to have it. Allergy to specific components of the vax is pretty much the only one. Pregnancy is a relative one and is a temporary state anyway.

What about social and economic reasons for not having the call? I heard lady on the radio earlier describing how some people she knew of, couldn't afford the bus fare to get to the vaccination center for example.
 
What about social and economic reasons for not having the call? I heard lady on the radio earlier describing how some people she knew of, couldn't afford the bus fare to get to the vaccination center for example.
There were taxi companies local to me offering free rides to vaccination centres, I am sure there is help out there if you ask for it.
 
The media needs those who are saying it is permitted to be more definite on the circumstances that it is so.

Where there is uncertainty or latitude/flexibility in direction or decision making, individuals will fill that void with whatever best suits their own wishes, circumstances or purposes.
GB is a society that does not like to be seen as authoritarian and unfortunately expects people to use their common sens. Your permitted to go tombstoning but it’s not advisable.
 
There were taxi companies local to me offering free rides to vaccination centres, I am sure there is help out there if you ask for it.

Thats awesome to hear! having to ask though goes against a lot of peoples way though, we know that from food banks and kids meals etc.

Anyway, I was playing devils advocate, but its not a coincidence I don't think, that the recent hotspots of outbreaks are from the lower end of the earning scale towns etc.
 
There aren't many good medical reasons not to have it. Allergy to specific components of the vax is pretty much the only one. Pregnancy is a relative one and is a temporary state anyway.

Another colleague doesn't want to have it as she hasnt had kids yet and she worried what it might do to her chances as there hasn't been trails on peoples fertility long term

Can kind of understand
 
So she's ignored the experts and believed the scare mongerers on social media.:mad:

Whilst the experts are correct when you listen to her point it is valid

The trilas for the vaccine started what march last year earliest? Is there really anyone who's been pregnancy to term throughout the trial and then affects on people trying?


All well and good for us to say.. I've got 3 kids and don't want more so don't care about that side of the vaccine
 
So she's ignored the experts and believed the scare mongerers on social media.:mad:

To be fair I can see both sides. I have no idea what age Paul's colleague is however if I were a 20 something woman maybe I would think twice before having the vaccine. I'm in an age group whereby Covid is highly unlikely to badly affect me and so maybe I would look at the risk and decide I'd rather not have it. I'm not saying that's right but I can actually understand the thought process.
 
got a message from my doctors this morning that I can now book my first jab, 2 minutes later and I am booked in for tomorrow afternoon. A very easy process, a little bit surprising as I hadnt chased about it at all. I turned 35 last week and have no underlying health issues so looks like we are getting through the list pretty quickly
 
To be fair I can see both sides. I have no idea what age Paul's colleague is however if I were a 20 something woman maybe I would think twice before having the vaccine. I'm in an age group whereby Covid is highly unlikely to badly affect me and so maybe I would look at the risk and decide I'd rather not have it. I'm not saying that's right but I can actually understand the thought process.

When she told me I was like fair enough

She's 34 today and my other colleague is what 25 and she is unsure because she too wants kids

Personally i was jab me up asap. Others have their reservations , I think cases like that whilst medically could be wrong I wouldnt judge people who thought that

Look at thalidomide all them years ago
 
Whilst the experts are correct when you listen to her point it is valid

The trilas for the vaccine started what march last year earliest? Is there really anyone who's been pregnancy to term throughout the trial and then affects on people trying?


All well and good for us to say.. I've got 3 kids and don't want more so don't care about that side of the vaccine

If she dies she will never be pregnant not withstanding the unknown effects covid may have on fertility.
 
It's about risk, are her age she is extremely unlikely to die from Covid. Like I said, I don't necessarily agree but I can see her point of view.
Let’s hope she doesn’t contract it and pass it on to others who are vulnerable- it is not purely a self interest decision. Let’s hope she will be extra vigilant and take the precautions whilst she enjoys the freedoms that are allowed due to others ‘taking a risk’ in being inoculated for their own and the common good.
 
Let’s hope she doesn’t contract it and pass it on to others who are vulnerable- it is not purely a self interest decision. Let’s hope she will be extra vigilant and take the precautions whilst she enjoys the freedoms that are allowed due to others ‘taking a risk’ in being inoculated for their own and the common good.

Almost all of the vulnerable either vaccinated or have been offered the vaccine so hopefully that situation is less likely to happen.
 
Let’s hope she doesn’t contract it and pass it on to others who are vulnerable- it is not purely a self interest decision. Let’s hope she will be extra vigilant and take the precautions whilst she enjoys the freedoms that are allowed due to others ‘taking a risk’ in being inoculated for their own and the common good.

Love the judgements on this site at times really do

A friend of My wife's is pregnant

The advise was no pregnant people jabbed

Then it changed she was offered phizer only as AZ was still no

She wasn't sure .. the advise changed pretty quick so is it rushed?

They left a week to think and then they were told it's too late now so she will be unvaccinated until the baby arrives

Really can't judge others decisions unless in their shoes

Also women have far more to think about than men in life anyways and this jab has huge thought process to those of child bearing age


Like I've said I didn't even think twice, and nor did my wife as we are done with kids

But others who aren't .. should not be judged.
 
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