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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

D-S said:
Weren’t construction sites closed for a period in Lockdown 1? Also dentists were closed or certainly emergency only and we have the, vital for February, garden centres open this time too.
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Yes until they deemed builders essienal / safe

Dentists take the Mick . Round here you can get private stuff done but not NHS ATM
So the dentist's paid by the NHS just take their money and don't do anything but the private ones work and charge you over the top
 
At the risk of straying into the p word arena tto far, a government minister has come out this morning and said they can't guarantee this will be the last lockdown. Personally i think he's having a laugh, i feel if they try and impose yet another one people will say enough is enough and rebel against it completely
 
SaintHacker said:
At the risk of straying into the p word arena tto far, a government minister has come out this morning and said they can't guarantee this will be the last lockdown. Personally i think he's having a laugh, i feel if they try and impose yet another one people will say enough is enough and rebel against it completely
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Of course he can't guarantee there won't be another lockdown. Nobody wants one and nobody can afford one but one is needed, say we get another spike last the last 3 months are we just going to sit back and let it run?
Of course not
And, of course, there's a very good likelihood that we won't get a spike with the vaccine rolling out well.
But its like asking someone to guarantee there'll be no snow in July....unlikely but can you guarantee it?
Never say Never
Never take anything off the table.
 
Leftitshort said:
Example being, one of our sites, it was closed for 2 months in lockdown 1. Open ever since. Normally approx 60 people work there. Some are furloughed, but approx 40 in at the moment. In jan at one stage they had 9 confirmed infections & 16 isolating. These people have no option to WFH.
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Yes, there are more people back at the workplace than the first lockdown.
Despite precautions, which soon become irksome and not adhered to by some, (human nature), because they are indoors there will be more aerosol spread of the virus than first lockdown.
But quoting one source of infection, as above, in an attempted defence of other actions also spreading the virus ( unlawful gatherings), is not logical nor helpful.
All actions involving close person to person contact increase the risk.
What worries me now is this "news" that you cannot transmit the virus if you have been vaccinated.
Already one of us has apparently accepted it as fact. If it is fact, great,
But I want it pronounced as such by the likes of Sage at the TV news conference by the likes of Prof VanTam and Hancock etc.
The last I heard from Professor Van Tam was that it was not known.
 
Imurg said:
Of course he can't guarantee there won't be another lockdown. Nobody wants one and nobody can afford one but one is needed, say we get another spike last the last 3 months are we just going to sit back and let it run?
Of course not
And, of course, there's a very good likelihood that we won't get a spike with the vaccine rolling out well.
But its like asking someone to guarantee there'll be no snow in July....unlikely but can you guarantee it?
Never say Never
Never take anything off the table.
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I realise that but with a population already fatigued by what seem to be never ending restrictions, who have been told to make an extra effort this time to make this the last one, it might not have been the cleverest thing to come out with. If it was to happen, and i pray it doesn't, I can see public compliance being very very low
 
SaintHacker said:
I realise that but with a population already fatigued by what seem to be never ending restrictions, who have been told to make an extra effort this time to make this the last one, it might not have been the cleverest thing to come out with. If it was to happen, and i pray it doesn't, I can see public compliance being very very low
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Thing is, you are damned if you and damned if you don't. You make the safe answer and say you cannot guarantee it (quite correctly) you are lowering national moral, you say it is the last one and you get hammered because there is no way you can guarantee such a thing. It was a question asked to produce a headline knowing full well the only sensible answer.
 
GB72 said:
Thing is, you are damned if you and damned if you don't. You make the safe answer and say you cannot guarantee it (quite correctly) you are lowering national moral, you say it is the last one and you get hammered because there is no way you can guarantee such a thing. It was a question asked to produce a headline knowing full well the only sensible answer.
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Even though it was set up as a gotcha, there were smarter answers available.
 
GB72 said:
Probably right but the question would keep popping up in various formats until the press had their 'this may not be the last lockdown' headline.
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The correct and only answer is to say that if the public complies properly with advice, we have an excellent chance of this being the last lockdown, but if people break the rules and the spirit of the rules, controls will last longer and further lockdowns may be necessary. The outcome does not depend on Govt policy, it depends on public actions.
 
Ethan said:
The correct and only answer is to say that if the public complies properly with advice, we have an excellent chance of this being the last lockdown, but if people break the rules and the spirit of the rules, controls will last longer and further lockdowns may be necessary. The outcome does not depend on Govt policy, it depends on public actions.
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That is an excellent answer. Problem is that it would still result in a massive headline of 'government cannot guarantee that this is the last lockdown'
 
GB72 said:
That is an excellent answer. Problem is that it would still result in a massive headline of 'government cannot guarantee that this is the last lockdown'
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The best approach is for Govt to tell people that Govt will offer a roadmap, but they must follow it if it is to be a success. Enforcement is not enough to make it work, a very high level of public acceptance is critical.

I think it is a mistake to attach relaxation to specific dates, though. Better to say that certain levels of cases, deaths, hospitalisations, whatever, will trigger relaxations.
 
Ethan said:
The correct and only answer is to say that if the public complies properly with advice, we have an excellent chance of this being the last lockdown, but if people break the rules and the spirit of the rules, controls will last longer and further lockdowns may be necessary. The outcome does not depend on Govt policy, it depends on public actions.
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Might be the better answer but its far too many words for a headline or newscaster. They would just select the words they wanted.
 
SaintHacker said:
I realise that but with a population already fatigued by what seem to be never ending restrictions, who have been told to make an extra effort this time to make this the last one, it might not have been the cleverest thing to come out with. If it was to happen, and i pray it doesn't, I can see public compliance being very very low
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If there is a need for another then there will be one, people may not like it but they will put up with it.
 
Just a query @Ethan on the South African variant that's causing concern; cases and deaths in the UK to date, probably very few SA variant, are 59k per 1 million cases and 1750 deaths per 1 million. The SA variant, in SA, is showing a lot lower at 25k cases/1m and 815 deaths/1m. Why the huge emphasis on the SA variant?
 
Called the GP and updated the wife weight since the twins

She now can get a jab

Apparently not the first to call about it
 
SaintHacker said:
At the risk of straying into the p word arena tto far, a government minister has come out this morning and said they can't guarantee this will be the last lockdown. Personally i think he's having a laugh, i feel if they try and impose yet another one people will say enough is enough and rebel against it completely
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I won't and don't know anyone who would.
 
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