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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Germany has (or is) extending lockdown to the 14th of March, initially planned to the 1st.

However, schools are opening earlier due to pressure of the states.
And there is some talk about hair dressers opening.

That is the model I could live with very well.
 
Once more the Ping Fitting Day I was booked onto was cancelled...will I ever get new clubs...just as well that all I could do with new clubs at the moment is polish and admire them. :(
 
BioN-Tech started to produce their vaccine in Germany as well. They produce for licensing purposes and for storage for that when this laboratory is licensed they can dump 8m doses onto the market.
Even if that is for Germany that should free up the Pfizer produced vaccine for the others.
 
We had our first shots yesterday. Very efficient and totally painless, in fact I genuinely did not realise that the injection was complete.

However, I did get side effects. Woke at around 2.00 am shivering and shaking, teeth literally chattering. Joint pain and generally feeling crap.

But now those effects are rapidly wearing off and I am getting back to normal (or what passes for normal in my case).
 
MegaSteve said:
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little/lot concerned re the spread of the variants... And, potential further/future mutations... On a more positive note... Sister in law got jabbed yesterday and of our more immediate family she was of the most concern due to her ongoing 'dealings' with cancer...


I have been using current lockdown to make a dent in my long term project of digitising our old negatives/transparencies... Been bringing back some happy memories and some tinged with a degree of sadness... Also, after many false starts, I finally managed a binge watch the first season of GoT... Not sure i will be rushing into S2 but hopefully having completed one season it will help with my popular culture knowledge when we can get back to some pub quizzing...
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? we did GOT during the second lock down b4 Xmas. We did stick with it. What bogged me off was I knew some of the endings due to watching gogglebox ?
 
For 4 or 5 days, the RBL branch managed to do a collection in the local supermarket, then lockdown came in. When me and Missis T we’re doing our stint. Missis T was talking to one of the staff who we have known 20 odd years. He husband is an alcoholic and was getting worse due to the Covid restriction. Her life was, well let’s say not pleasant. Ave just seen her an hour ago and I asked
“ how’s things”. She mentioned her husband had died 5 weeks after we had talked. Oddly enough, she looked well, she looked like she had a massive weight off her shoulders. She mentioned he had collapsed, went into hospital, came home Covid Free and was called the day after to say guy in next bed is positive. Suffice to say he caught it and eventually passed away. We couldn’t really talk as she was working. I mentioned it to Missis T and she said her life was hell for her and the kids.
Covid is crap for everyone, but sometimes there’s just horrible reminders that some folk are more up to the neck in the brown stuff than others ☹️
Staysafe everyone.
 
No, absolutely not. If you've been given the chance and you turn it down, it's on you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56007070

"A scientist has warned Covid-19 could be "with us for decades from now on".

Prof Paul Hunter, professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, told BBC Radio 4's World At One: "Complete eradication is an unachievable goal in my view and in the view of many epidemiologists, and in the view of the World Health Organization.

"This virus is going to be with us for decades from now on. The issue is protecting the people who are most vulnerable initially."

He said it was a problem that not everybody who was vulnerable was having the vaccine and questioned what can be done to protect those who have declined a jab or not had it despite being at risk.

"Do we as a society need to still keep some sort of restrictions in place to help protect them?" he asked.
 
Lilyhawk said:
No, absolutely not. If you've been given the chance and you turn it down, it's on you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56007070

"A scientist has warned Covid-19 could be "with us for decades from now on".

Prof Paul Hunter, professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, told BBC Radio 4's World At One: "Complete eradication is an unachievable goal in my view and in the view of many epidemiologists, and in the view of the World Health Organization.

"This virus is going to be with us for decades from now on. The issue is protecting the people who are most vulnerable initially."

He said it was a problem that not everybody who was vulnerable was having the vaccine and questioned what can be done to protect those who have declined a jab or not had it despite being at risk.

"Do we as a society need to still keep some sort of restrictions in place to help protect them?" he asked.
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Absolutely not, the many have suffered for the benefit of the few long enough already. If some of those are stupid enough not to protect themselves i would say leave them to it.
 
SaintHacker said:
Absolutely not, the many have suffered for the benefit of the few long enough already. If some of those are stupid enough not to protect themselves i would say leave them to it.
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Playing the Devil's Advocate - I have never had the Flu jag - if I fall seriously ill with influenza am I left to my own devices?

Smokers know the risk of smoking. Are they left to their own devices?

It's a separate question from the risk to others presented by those not taking up the offer of being vaccinated. Though clearly the risk presented to those vaccinated is low.
 
I think by next year all the wrinklies will trot off to their GP once a year and get their flu jab and every 3-5 years, get their Covid jab.
After all, we've been living with the flu since the 1940s
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Playing the Devil's Advocate - I have never had the Flu jag - if I fall seriously ill with influenza am I left to my own devices?
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I don't think anyone is saying do not give them the health care needed. Only saying that the rest of society isn't to make any further changes to their way of living because you have chosen not to taken the vaccine.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Playing the Devil's Advocate - I have never had the Flu jag - if I fall seriously ill with influenza am I left to my own devices?
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Not at all however the rest of society should not have any restrictions just because you have decided not to have the Covid jab. You would be given NHS help and would hopefully be okay however should the worst happen that would be down to your initial decision.
 
Lilyhawk said:
I don't think anyone is saying do not give them the health care needed. Only saying that the rest of society isn't to make any further changes to their way of living because you have chosen not to taken the vaccine.
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OK - but I am not so sure that's 100% the case...

I noted a spokesman this morning being very clear that there are no plans for a vaccine passport...at least not for an internal UK purposes. Now I am inclined towards a 'vaccine passport' of some form being required for some circumstances - especially over the early months if not early years of us living with the virus, and clearly any such passport would exclude those not taking the vaccination. So the spokesman has already decided that the needs and freedom of choice of those not vaccinated will be taken into account.
 
road2ruin said:
As above, no one is suggesting that those who refuse the Covid jab aren't given health support however you don't see restrictions placed on non-smokers due to smokers etc.
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I misunderstood the intent of the statement 'If some of those are stupid enough not to protect themselves i would say leave them to it'
 
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