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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

I'm not convinced, some people would ignore the risks whatever the government said, go abroad and then complain.
Oh I don't doubt that whatsoever. But what it would do is support the government, travel companies & insurers in that they all can say you had adequate warning and were aware.

There however will always be muppets that can't accept personal responsibility.
 
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They do but its not much cop and its not exactly easy to find or understand for many especially as Amber and green both mean the same thing.

If they put in an active alert system akin to the bikini system and had it in the daily paper, bbc & other news sites home pages and on SM it would solve many issues.

You mean one of these good and sensible ideas that either hasn't fully been thought through or properly implemented :(
 
Oh I don't doubt that whatsoever. But what it would do is support the government, travel companies & insurers in that they all can say you had and were aware.

There however will always be muppets that can't accept personal responsibility.
I cannot criticise those who decide to travel abroad - that is their own individual choice given their personal circumstances - family, financial and work-wise, based upon their own risk assessment given all the information and advice that they have been provided with. But that information and advice needs to be clear and unambiguous. Otherwise risk of misunderstanding and confusion.
 
honest question - does the FCO advising against all but essential travel mean that folks' insurance could / would be invalid if they travel after the advice was issued?
 
honest question - does the FCO advising against all but essential travel mean that folks' insurance could / would be invalid if they travel after the advice was issued?
Yes it does. This is a massive thing that people really should be taking notice of. Double check with your insurers but potentially it means you have no medical cover, no theft cover, no cover for anything.
 
honest question - does the FCO advising against all but essential travel mean that folks' insurance could / would be invalid if they travel after the advice was issued?

I’d say that’s a racing certainty. And anyone who travels uninsured in these uncertain times, frankly, deserves all they get.

Still, I suppose anyone who travels now to Benidorm against government advice can always set up a crowd funding page to pay their medical and repatriation costs when it all goes horribly wrong.

:rolleyes:
 
I’d say that’s a racing certainty. And anyone who travels uninsured in these uncertain times, frankly, deserves all they get.

Still, I suppose anyone who travels now to Benidorm against government advice can always set up a crowd funding page to pay their medical and repatriation costs when it all goes horribly wrong.

:rolleyes:
It would not be a summer without a story on your local news about someone looking sad in a Spanish / Portugese hospital who 'did not think they needed insurance' and now has a huge bill they can not pay and is asking via FB for people to pay it. Happens every year, crackers o_O

Up here we always get a few of these plus cars getting submerged crossing Holy Island causeway and the rescue services having to pick up the muppets who thought they could make it. It would not be summer without either story.
 
Yes it does. This is a massive thing that people really should be taking notice of. Double check with your insurers but potentially it means you have no medical cover, no theft cover, no cover for anything.

suspected that would be the case, and was surprised it's not been highlighted more in the media.

Unbelievable (or maybe not) that Ryanair have come out and said they are going to continue flying to Spain.
 
suspected that would be the case, and was surprised it's not been highlighted more in the media.

Unbelievable (or maybe not) that Ryanair have come out and said they are going to continue flying to Spain.

Only rumours I heard and may be no truth to it but stories going around that Ryan Air were flying empty flights during some of the lockdown to avoid paying refunds (the flight left, we did our bit, no money back).
 
suspected that would be the case, and was surprised it's not been highlighted more in the media.

Unbelievable (or maybe not) that Ryanair have come out and said they are going to continue flying to Spain.
Totally agree. Financially dangerous to go abroad without insurance. It is bad enough how many go without it. Now you are throwing in those who have it but don't realise it is invalid.
 
Totally agree. Financially dangerous to go abroad without insurance. It is bad enough how many go without it. Now you are throwing in those who have it but don't realise it is invalid.

I would be doubtful that many policies would cover covid even if they were valid for other reasons so the risk would be pretty big even with a valid policy in place.
 
I would be doubtful that many policies would cover covid even if they were valid for other reasons so the risk would be pretty big even with a valid policy in place.
Your insurance would cover you for Covid treatment though surely, if you go somewhere where your insurance is still valid of course? That would come under general illnesses, or whatever phrase they use. The only Covid related matter that may not be covered is cancellation cover if your insurance was taken after the pandemic. If taken before, and your holiday was booked before then many policies will cover you still, although not all.
 
The Canary Islands are farther away from the current outbreak areas (Catalonia, Aragon) than London is. The infection rate in the Canaries is approx 8 per 100k, compared to 240 per 100k in Aragon and around 11 per 100k in the UK. There is no logical reason to sweep up the Canaries in this quarantine, which is unenforced and unenforceable anyway. Testing on return is a waste of time.

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Spaniards holiday in the Canaries (and the Balearics) as well. With the ease of internal travel its perfectly conceivable that there could be a new spike about to hit the islands due to people travelling from a 'hot' area but not yet displaying symptoms/ being asymptomatic.
Tough call by the govt but the right one imo.
 
Your insurance would cover you for Covid treatment though surely, if you go somewhere where your insurance is still valid of course? That would come under general illnesses, or whatever phrase they use. The only Covid related matter that may not be covered is cancellation cover if your insurance was taken after the pandemic. If taken before, and your holiday was booked before then many policies will cover you still, although not all.

Not sure, heard a few news stories about covid being excluded for bookings since the pandemic and subsequent policies. Would be worth checking.
 
Spaniards holiday in the Canaries (and the Balearics) as well. With the ease of internal travel its perfectly conceivable that there could be a new spike about to hit the islands due to people travelling from a 'hot' area but not yet displaying symptoms/ being asymptomatic.
Tough call by the govt but the right one imo.

The case rates are what they are. People in a number of parts of the UK would be safer in Tenerife than staying at home. People from Leicester go to Blackpool or Cornwall. People from Barcelona and Aragon can drive across the border to France, which is right next to them, but travel there and back is still fine.

The risk of a second wave in the UK is not from returning holidaymakers, but from the residual disease in the community held in check by social distancing but now more likely to spread again.

Wrong call by the Govt, imo, on the same list as many previous wrong calls on Covid.
 
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Yes it does. This is a massive thing that people really should be taking notice of. Double check with your insurers but potentially it means you have no medical cover, no theft cover, no cover for anything.
Does our EHIC card not still give us medical cover in Spain - no matter what the UK government says about travel to specific countries...?
 
Does our EHIC card not still give us medical cover in Spain - no matter what the UK government says about travel to specific countries...?
It gives basic cover but no more than that. It also advises that you may be required to pay towards some of the treatment required. As that could be thousands or tens of thousands of Euros then it should not be relied upon to get people out of trouble if ill abroad.

The link below advises what is covered but they repeatedly mention taking your own insurance, not reyling on the card alone.

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/he...r-a-free-ehic-european-health-insurance-card/
 
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