Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[hovis]

my friend who is recovering alcoholic said that AA is speaking to the government. apparently 80,000 people a year die of alcohol related illness and with the lockdown and no meetings they have already had a significant increase relapses/falling off the wagon.
i never actually gave any thought to things like this but quite a shame for those people effected
i wonder what the death count will add upto if you count deaths by coronavirus lockdown effects?

 

[Blue in Munich]

my friend who is recovering alcoholic said that AA is speaking to the government. apparently 80,000 people a year die of alcohol related illness and with the lockdown and no meetings they have already had a significant increase relapses/falling off the wagon.
i never actually gave any thought to things like this but quite a shame for those people effected
i wonder what the death count will add upto if you count deaths by coronavirus lockdown effects?

Add in potential domestics & suicides to the list of issues it might cause. Ironically they will not be recorded as a Covid-19 death, yet someone with an underlying health issue which had them at death's door who tests positive for the Corona virus probably will. Lies, damn lies & statistics.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Apparently there is an upside to this as the Great British public, deprived of the opportunity to drink themselves stupid and then trying to punch the living out of each other, have stopped using the ambulance service as a minicab service to clog up A&E with their self inflicted issues.

 

[USER1999]

Well it dosnt as the police have now said you can! In Liverpool anyway.
That’s the problem imo, if you give people a choice some will take it as a green light to do it.
But when the numbers get high again they will ban it.
Dosnt make sense mixed messages.

For sure, it makes no sense, but if they have closed it, it's closed.

 

[Foxholer]

Clearly not enough testing gone on.....I've no idea why or what the issues are, I hope it isn't to do with the conventional constraints Public Sector Procurement operates under. But I guess when this is all over, we'll see who did their bit, who didn't and who just stood on the sidelines chucking rocks!

Testing is another aspect that costs the NHS considerable resources - both to set up for the expected volumes and to actually perform. That's another reason for the 'delay' tactics being applied.

 

[Old Skier]

3500 frontline workers tested out of 550,000 an absolute disgrace imo.
Watching TV and seeing so many without PPE is another disgrace.

The PPE issue is a strange one but after reports today that some NHS Trust are short cutting the supply chain by going direct to supplies shows a possible answer to the problem. The equipment should be distributed from the centre not by selfish individual trusts.

 

[pokerjoke]

The PPE issue is a strange one but after reports today that some NHS Trust are short cutting the supply chain by going direct to supplies shows a possible answer to the problem. The equipment should be distributed from the centre not by selfish individual trusts.

The worry would be people making money off this illegally but I’m sure there will be.
No different to charities collecting millions and not getting it all to the people it’s for.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

8 o'clock tonight Scotland is calling all pipers to play Scotland the Brave and everyone to clap along for all the carers.
Hoping we have a piper in the village.

 

[Hacker Khan]

my friend who is recovering alcoholic said that AA is speaking to the government. apparently 80,000 people a year die of alcohol related illness and with the lockdown and no meetings they have already had a significant increase relapses/falling off the wagon.
i never actually gave any thought to things like this but quite a shame for those people effected
i wonder what the death count will add upto if you count deaths by coronavirus lockdown effects?

I'd say it is impossible to know and the government are trying to balance on an at times, impossible tightrope between keeping society functioning to some vague level of normality, keeping the economy going, keeping people alive and trying to minimise the knock on effects to whatever path they take. There is no good answer, each option is pretty s***ty as whatever happens you will have significant impacts later down the line. But I'd argue to most right thinking people, doing all you reasonably can to prevent many immediate deaths from a highly contagious virus to which there is currently no vaccine is the main priority. Then focus on mitigating any undesirable impacts this path causes later.

 

[backwoodsman]

my friend who is recovering alcoholic said that AA is speaking to the government. apparently 80,000 people a year die of alcohol related illness and with the lockdown and no meetings they have already had a significant increase relapses/falling off the wagon.
i never actually gave any thought to things like this but quite a shame for those people effected
i wonder what the death count will add upto if you count deaths by coronavirus lockdown effects?

Think your mate has too many noughts on his figures - the Office for National Statistics has it at just under 8000 (for 2018) (Eighty thousand would be nearly 20% of the total). Still, it doesnt diminish the issue for those with a problem.

 

[hovis]

Think your mate has too many noughts on his figures - the Office for National Statistics has it at just under 8000 (for 2018) (Eighty thousand would be nearly 20% of the total). Still, it doesnt diminish the issue for those with a problem.

nope, my friends figure was spot on it was me that added the zero! ? whoops, thumbs too fat

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Apparently there is an upside to this as the Great British public, deprived of the opportunity to drink themselves stupid and then trying to punch the living out of each other, have stopped using the ambulance service as a minicab service to clog up A&E with their self inflicted issues.

In the aftermath of all this I'm expecting to see a host of interesting statistics. I'd expect burglaries to be down, fewer empty houses, violent crime down, no one boozed up as you say, traffic accidents down etc. There will be some quirky ones as well which we won't have expected. This is an unwanted but fascinating social and psychological experiment.

 

[ColchesterFC]

8 o'clock tonight Scotland is calling all pipers to play Scotland the Brave and everyone to clap along for all the carers.
Hoping we have a piper in the village.

My god man, aren't these carers going through enough already without being subjected to that kind of torture?

 

[Blue in Munich]

In the aftermath of all this I'm expecting to see a host of interesting statistics. I'd expect burglaries to be down, fewer empty houses, violent crime down, no one boozed up as you say, traffic accidents down etc. There will be some quirky ones as well which we won't have expected. This is an unwanted but fascinating social and psychological experiment.

Apparently burglaries on pubs/licensed premises and shops are up as they are unoccupied. Whilst traffic accidents should be down, I'd consider the severity could increase as the ability to speed will be easier; I'd also expect a spike in car v. pedestrian accidents when the lockdown is lifted as all the new walkers who currently don't think traffic exists are caught out.

 

[Hobbit]

In the aftermath of all this I'm expecting to see a host of interesting statistics. I'd expect burglaries to be down, fewer empty houses, violent crime down, no one boozed up as you say, traffic accidents down etc. There will be some quirky ones as well which we won't have expected. This is an unwanted but fascinating social and psychological experiment.

You forgot divorces and births will be up.

 

[moogie]

In the aftermath of all this I'm expecting to see a host of interesting statistics. I'd expect burglaries to be down, fewer empty houses, violent crime down, no one boozed up as you say, traffic accidents down etc. There will be some quirky ones as well which we won't have expected. This is an unwanted but fascinating social and psychological experiment.

Not sure I can agree with all of that
Plenty scumbag opportunists will be well aware of which shops and businesses are still trading and which are locked up and unattended
Ripe for breaking into

Eg...... Apparently close house golf shop was broking into last night....
Post on the northumberland golf union Facebook page

But you're right though, fascinating experiment indeed
Plenty frustrated people already

Highlight of my days right now.... Walking the dogs in the fields of the neighbouring farm?

 

[Hobbit]

My god man, aren't these carers going through enough already without being subjected to that kind of torture?

To be fair, the bagpipes are a fantastic social distancing device.

 

[DanFST]

Just read that Flu can kill up to 10,000 people a year in the UK. We don't "lockdown" for that do we?

Are you serious? This will kill that in 2 weeks. Even with the steps we've been taking.

If today's death toll stayed the same (it will get higher) that would be 207,685 dead a year. Are you really that idiotic?

These are real people. Jesus.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

I'm killing time on the internet instead of trying to cut a six iron shot into a tight pin placement.
That's how the virus is affecting me.
It's sparing me from butchering that shot and bunkering my ball.

 

[MegaSteve]

The PPE issue is a strange one but after reports today that some NHS Trust are short cutting the supply chain by going direct to supplies shows a possible answer to the problem. The equipment should be distributed from the centre not by selfish individual trusts.

Have been getting proper tee'd off watching government officials telling us PPE is getting to where it's needed... Then seeing from the good people on the front line they are still waiting and desperate for it to arrive...

More cheerfully, just seen a bit on the telly about a local school putting its 3D printers to good use making visors... Every little bit helps ?...