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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Hobbit said:
Its the unknown scale of things though. For example and picking daft numbers, during normal times only 100 masks might be used. What's the number now? 400? 600? 1000?

I don't know Procurement's back office procedures or agreements. I don't know why they aren't talking to other hauliers to get shipments out quicker. I do know that although Procurement are managing some deals, some of them are delivered direct to the hospitals. Quite who's doing what when I haven't got a clue.
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It’s Madness.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Yes I agree but was Charlie’s wife Camilla nessesary before a Doctor or nurse?
In a national emergency we need our doctors and nurses tested FIRST.
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Don't mean to be harsh but the first priority should always be people with symptoms
The problem with testing nurses and doctors is their infection status is a moving target - how often do you test them etc when they keep putting themselves at risk after testing -- thats the harsh reality (which they understand)

I'd say test symptomatic healthcare staff first, then patients - then all other healthcare or at risk staff (even if asymptomatic) for reassurance purposes
 
Italian outcast said:
Don't mean to be harsh but the first priority should always be people with symptoms
The problem with testing nurses and doctors is their infection status is a moving target - how often do you test them etc when they keep putting themselves at risk after testing -- thats the harsh reality (which they understand)

I'd say test symptomatic healthcare staff first, then patients - then all other healthcare or at risk staff (even if asymptomatic) for reassurance purposes
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My son (pharmacist) sat on his arse for two weeks at home because his son had a cough.
He works in a hospital pharmacy. He was told not to come to work.
We have our priorities all wrong where privilege and money gets you to top of list.
 
clubchamp98 said:
My son (pharmacist) sat on his arse for two weeks at home because his son had a cough.
He works in a hospital pharmacy. He was told not to come to work.
We have our priorities all wrong where privilege and money gets you to top of list.
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In general I agree - but you can hardly say the system is at fault when someone who was symptomatic and so might have it was tested and they did have it (as in Prince Charles case)
 
Italian outcast said:
In general I agree - but you can hardly say the system is at fault when someone who was symptomatic and so might have it was tested and they did have it (as in Prince Charles case)
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So some little old lady in Manchester/ Liverpool showing symptoms would be tested as quick as Charles?
I don’t think so!
He was also told to stay in his main residence but went to Scotland to his holiday home.
That’s a bad example ,
 
clubchamp98 said:
So some little old lady in Manchester/ Liverpool showing symptoms would be tested as quick as Charles?
I don’t think so!
He was also told to stay in his main residence but went to Scotland to his holiday home.
That’s a bad example ,
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Seriously.

If people are trying to compare how royals are treated to everyone else, they really are talking about things that don't matter, and certainly won't change.

There is a hierarchy. And I challenge anyone to claim they haven't at some point aspired for a promotion because it raises their status in someway.

Now if people don't think there is a need for a monarchy, that's a whole new convo that's been had on here to death, but come on. Of course the heir to the throne and his wife will get checked immediately. :rolleyes:
 
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Papas1982 said:
Seriously.

If people are trying to compare how royals are treated to everyone else, they really are talking about things that don't matter, and certainly won't change.

There is a hierarchy. And I challenge anyone to claim they haven't at some point aspired for a promotion because it raises their status in someway.

Now if people don't think there is a need for a monarchy, that's a whole new convo that's been had on here to death, but come on. Of course the heir to the throne and his wife will get checked immediately. :rolleyes:
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Unfortunately, you’re answering the wrong question. It wasn’t “would they be tested” it was “should they be tested”.
ok then, another question.
What difference did it make that Johnson and Hancock etc were tested?
Their own guidelines stated that they should self isolate for 7 days if they showed symptoms. They did this. What would they have done differently if they hadn’t had the test? Would they have not followed their own guidelines?
Now imagine if a Doctor had shown symptoms, been tested using the Johnson test (they are in very short supply). Tested negative. Gone back to work. Saved lives.
Even if you ignore the morality of it, consider the political optics! Boris saves lives by foregoing the test and passing it on to the actual troops making a difference. Even I’d have respected that, and I think Boris is a charlatan of the lowest form.
 
bluewolf said:
Did you read my post at all?
What did having the test change?
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Ah, the beauty of online fora... the beauty of endlessly going round in circles. I posted an explanation a few hundred (?) posts ago but that circle has been gone round more than once since. I wont re-quote or post a link, as that will just give the argument another push around the loop.
 
backwoodsman said:
Ah, the beauty of online fora... the beauty of endlessly going round in circles. I posted an explanation a few hundred (?) posts ago but that circle has been gone round more than once since. I wont re-quote or post a link, as that will just give the argument another push around the loop.
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Iirc, you stated that Prince Charles may have paid for a private test (sorry if I’ve misremembered your post). That may actually be true, but Hancock yesterday confirmed that senior politicians did not get private tests. They were tested using public purchased tests.
 
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