Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'm just amazed at how people are losing their minds and proclaiming the next messiah based on a very small sample size as someone seems vaguely competent. And can speak with relative authority and seriousness without sounding like an incompetent popularist eejut promoted way above their competence level based on entirely on their views on Brexit like the majority of the rest of the cabinet. You telling me Preti Patel is the best home secretary we could have had?? In the good old days this was the norm, most of the cabinet had this base level of competence, nowadays we seem to celebrate it like it's a miracle. Oh well, in the land of the blind an all that....

I might fundamentally disagree with Sunak's politics - however in respect of how he has spoken in any briefing he has given I sense an authenticity that I can believe in (though of course he might be talking complete b*****ks)

 

[Hacker Khan]

All the staff at HID's school have been asked to log in for a conference call at 6.00 so guessing it's closing and staff redundancies afoot. I hope I'm wrong but can't see any reason to get all staff together at one time

Why staff redundancies? The chancellor has made it very clear that people should not be made redundant and I can't see and local authorities or academies doing that. And as a chair of governors at a school the last thing you want to be doing now is going through a redundancy process. Schools are still getting a majority of their revenue coming in even if there is little teaching going on and schools do not know at this stage if they will lose, be much the same or even gain financially from this when it all shakes out.

 

[Slime]

If I am a gardener can I go to one of my clients when they are out and cut their lawn?

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

sorry to hear that mate

 

[User62651]

Agree with the sentiment, but there are political decisions about the virus and the handling that has impacts on us all.

Would you suggest another thread to discuss those decisions/impacts or keep it in one place?

It will always be political, something like this, can't not be. Politicians are running the show and lives depend on it.
Trump kinda dropping UK Govt in it yesterday wrt change in approach, no need! Trying to vinidcate his own about turn on CV19 I suppose.

 

[Imurg]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

Condolences

 

[Slime]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

Genuinely sorry to hear that, Paul.
Thoughts are with you and his son.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Sorry to hear your loss Paul, if there’s anything i could do to help out give me a ring??

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Why staff redundancies? The chancellor has made it very clear that people should not be made redundant and I can't see and local authorities or academies doing that. And as a chair of governors at a school the last thing you want to be doing now is going through a redundancy process. Schools are still getting a majority of their revenue coming in even if there is little teaching going on and schools do not know at this stage if they will lose, be much the same or even gain financially from this when it all shakes out.

It's an independent school so reliant on fees and I simply don't think parents have paid or are prepared to pay until they know when their kids will have an education which I feel (and my wife concurs) will be the new school year in September and so with no cash coming in I'm not sure how they will keep going. Several other independents locally have already gone

 

[Wolf]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

Sorry to hear that Paul, thoughts with you and your family.

I've also had a quick Google and nothing comes up, perhaps could be worth contacting your local MP or your nephews MP to ask for clarity and perhaps even get a dispensation email/letter to acknowledge the need for travel to make necessary arrangements. Could be worth a try as at least they could then take up the case on his behalf if plod do get funny.

 

[clubchamp98]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

My condolences.
That just sounds very poor response from the authorities.
At a time of loss you need help not stupid jobsworths.
I live in Liverpool so if I can help just ask.

 

[harpo_72]

Sorry to hear that Paul, thoughts with you and your family.

I've also had a quick Google and nothing comes up, perhaps could be worth contacting your local MP or your nephews MP to ask for clarity and perhaps even get a dispensation email/letter to acknowledge the need for travel to make necessary arrangements. Could be worth a try as at least they could then take up the case on his behalf if plod do get funny.

Good suggestion! ?

 

[Wolf]

2 things from today as to how its affected us.

1. Wife finally got email from Mike Ashley's mob stating she is to be furloughed from April.

2. Just had an answerphone from the Navy's reserve team asking me to get contact with them or my old unit/local unit with regards to Covid-19 sanctions and requirements, when contacting them to quote my service number that's all it said. This is going to an interesting call back to them ?

 

[drdel]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

New guidelines issued to cops today say there should be no 'road blocks' or routine stopping of motor vehicles. If he has any paperwork/emails then stick them in the car: I'd be willing to bet he will be fine.

 

[hovis]

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[bluewolf]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

Genuinely sorry that you've both found yourselves in this situation. A bit of sense would clear this up in no time, but that's in short supply all over at the moment.. I hope you get it sorted mate..

 

[Hobbit]

Unfortunately my brother passed away yesterday (he lived in Liverpool in sheltered accommodation) his eldest son who is his next of kin lives in Swindon.

The Coroners Office have been great and can do a lot of what needs to be done over the phone.

The manager of the Sheltered accommodation can only give access to my brothers flat to his NOK and that can’t be changed even in this current climate.

His son had therefore arranged to drive to Liverpool today and get what paperwork he needs from his dad’s flat to make the necessary arrangements with the Coroner, Funeral Director etc etc.

He contacted his local Police in Swindon to check on travel and has been told his journey (officially) does not come under the category of essential and he should not travel, then he’s told (unofficially) he could try and make the journey, but if stopped he faces either being turned back or given a warning, but if he continues and is stopped again he could be forced to turn round or fined, it’ll be down to the Copper that stops him!

Absolutely ridiculous, how on earth when the lad has lost his dad should he be faced with this dilemma.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a prime example of the confusion over the laws that have been brought in.


I’ve searched the Government websites for any advice or way round this and come up empty, if anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

Really sorry for your loss Paul.

How about if his son had an email from the shelter manager? If stopped by the Police he could show it and hope the policeman shows some common sense. If he did end up with a fixed penalty notice, contest it.

 

[IanM]

Sorry to hear your news Paul..... I'd hope the police would show some compassion if needed....

we heard about a former member of my wife'd golf club who died of the virus last week and her cousin now has it. Awful stuff going on.

 

[Hacker Khan]

It's an independent school so reliant on fees and I simply don't think parents have paid or are prepared to pay until they know when their kids will have an education which I feel (and my wife concurs) will be the new school year in September and so with no cash coming in I'm not sure how they will keep going. Several other independents locally have already gone

I'll preface this with the fact that this is a very selfish viewpoint from a position of privilege. But my daughters is at an independent school and the vast majority of parents I know are happy to still pay for the next term as long as the school are providing an education to the best of their ability, which they are. Yes it will not be as good as being there in person, but to be quite brutal about it, independent schools will on average be providing better education to their pupils than non-independent schools at this time. So the kids in independent schools will be on average, having even more of an advantage when 'proper' schooling resumes. So for parents to opt out of that is a bit silly IMHO.

I imagine if independent school pointed out that unless parents pay, the school may close and the parents will need to find a space for their kids in a system in which the best non-independent schools are already heavily over subscribed, then they may well change their minds. Also independent schools will want to hold onto their best staff and should have a war chest built up to get them through the summer term.