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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Amazing what happens as soon as the pubs are allowed back.

Apparently people can be trusted and that hospitality wasn't an issue (according to pub owners)

Compare to few months ago a&e the daughter was in and out in 2 hours after breaking her arm and the place was empty.

A & E’s have been quiet primarily because people aren’t going to them with trifling injuries and illness because they’re scared to death of catching Covid at a hospital. It really is that simple.

For far too long A & E staff have had to deal with malingerers who could have either phoned 111 or their GP. If those people are now doing what they should have been doing all along, instead of clogging up emergency facilities, then it’s a positive to come out of this whole crisis.
 
Why is this the pubs fault? There appeared to be one drunk in A&E. Doesn’t seem to be much in the story above to start blaming hospitality?

Pubs back equates to more drunken behaviour no?

All the photos I've seen on social media of people in "covid secure pubs" in their groups of 6 mates are really close together no social distancing .

Where is there any proof that this bloke got drunk in a pub?
 
Hospitality owners are quite vocal how their industry is covid secure (nothing is covid secure .. you can't see covid) and not one case traced back to them (apparently)

Yet they can't see whilst they are open again and may be following everything their customers in a main are ok but the idiots like this will cause problems everywhere .. not just spikes but drains on the NHS itself having to deal with them being idiots.

So it's the pub's fault that they're idiots, not the idiots fault for behaving like idiots? :rolleyes:
 
Pubs back equates to more drunken behaviour no?

All the photos I've seen on social media of people in "covid secure pubs" in their groups of 6 mates are really close together no social distancing .

Son came in last night, he had had a fair old bit to drink. He and a pal had been watching the Chelsea game there were only them 2 in the pub for the last hour and a half. Everyone else was over the rd at another pub listening to a woman murder northern soul on the mike. They went over for a couple. It was rammed with everyone smashed. He came straight home After one. He was in at about 9.30.
He got a phone call this morning off a girl he bumped into last night. She was that smashed she asked him how she got home.
Now some pubs Ave seen have been very responsible. Others not so with there punters smashed out of there skulls that don’t know how there getting home never mind using social distancing.
I have been hearing that we will deffo have a third wave and I could not work out how and who. Listening to me lad this morning and last night Ave a fair idea where this wave is coming from. ☹️
 
Son came in last night, he had had a fair old bit to drink. He and a pal had been watching the Chelsea game there were only them 2 in the pub for the last hour and a half. Everyone else was over the rd at another pub listening to a woman murder northern soul on the mike. They went over for a couple. It was rammed with everyone smashed. He came straight home After one. He was in at about 9.30.
He got a phone call this morning off a girl he bumped into last night. She was that smashed she asked him how she got home.
Now some pubs Ave seen have been very responsible. Others not so with there punters smashed out of there skulls that don’t know how there getting home never mind using social distancing.
I have been hearing that we will deffo have a third wave and I could not work out how and who. Listening to me lad this morning and last night Ave a fair idea where this wave is coming from. ☹️

It's been a real bug bear. We have been advise to be sensible with all the steps to keep things ticking over to get all restrictions gone

Then people go in their groups of 6 but zero social distancing (not everyone but a lot of groups)... Nobody seems to check if they are a household or a bubble ..

Some places like you say very responsible.. others just want to make up for lost money and everyone in..

My old golf club has set up a marquee for "outside dining" but all the sides are down. Bar one door. Against the rules and inside looks exactly like their restaurant. Built it to get around the rules but then stick the sides down and ignore them

It's just wrong.
 
It's been a real bug bear. We have been advise to be sensible with all the steps to keep things ticking over to get all restrictions gone

Then people go in their groups of 6 but zero social distancing (not everyone but a lot of groups)... Nobody seems to check if they are a household or a bubble ..

Some places like you say very responsible.. others just want to make up for lost money and everyone in..

My old golf club has set up a marquee for "outside dining" but all the sides are down. Bar one door. Against the rules and inside looks exactly like their restaurant. Built it to get around the rules but then stick the sides down and ignore them

It's just wrong.

if there are 6 of them, you don’t need to check.
only has to be family or bubble if more than 6 now, isn’t it?

agree about the state of people after a few pints, but tbh people have been stuck in doors for the last year. It was bound to happen.
 
if there are 6 of them, you don’t need to check.
only has to be family or bubble if more than 6 now, isn’t it?

agree about the state of people after a few pints, but tbh people have been stuck in doors for the last year. It was bound to happen.

True, just you would hope somewhere would enforce distancing between people ..

I've seen so many pics of groups shoulder to shoulder

A hairdressers near me posted a pic of first day back and they posed on the floor "exhausted" but they were laying on each other ... A mask doesn't make it fine for crying out loud
 
A & E’s have been quiet primarily because people aren’t going to them with trifling injuries and illness because they’re scared to death of catching Covid at a hospital. It really is that simple.

For far too long A & E staff have had to deal with malingerers who could have either phoned 111 or their GP. If those people are now doing what they should have been doing all along, instead of clogging up emergency facilities, then it’s a positive to come out of this whole crisis.
I was seen very quickly and chatting to one of the Nurses I asked her if she was worried about it getting back to pre-covid levels and unfortunately she stated it was just about there.

I said I was surprised as it seemed quiet and she said what has helped is the family and hangers-on not being allowed in as they tend to stir the trouble (this was before the woman came in), she also stated monday is the worst day as some don’t want to be seen on a weekend. ?‍♂️
 
True, just you would hope somewhere would enforce distancing between people ..

I've seen so many pics of groups shoulder to shoulder

A hairdressers near me posted a pic of first day back and they posed on the floor "exhausted" but they were laying on each other ... A mask doesn't make it fine for crying out loud

Whilst not doubting there is a lot of rule flouting going on, I have a deep mistrust of images used in the media, which are often taken or printed in such a way as to support the agenda. The images of “packed” parks and beaches last summer were classic examples - if you looked close enough you could see they were taken from such an angle/distance and using a lens to ensure people appeared far closer than they were. Either that, or library images have been used time and again.

If you want an example of how an image can tell totally the wrong story take a look on the Daily Fail (intended) Sport section this morning. The image used of the challenge leading to a sending off at West Ham yesterday made the challenge, which in most people’s view wasn’t even a foul never mind a red card, look like a vicious, deliberate stamp.

Skilful people, these journalists and photographers.
 
Having seen what i saw whilst working last night i think there could well be a third wave, but it will predominantly affect this younger, selfish stupid generation who seem to be immune from common sense and think rules designed to protect dont apply to them. And it may sound harsh but if a few of them start getting seriously ill/dying I'm afraid my sympathy levels will be very low to non existent :mad:
 
Whilst not doubting there is a lot of rule flouting going on, I have a deep mistrust of images used in the media, which are often taken or printed in such a way as to support the agenda. The images of “packed” parks and beaches last summer were classic examples - if you looked close enough you could see they were taken from such an angle/distance and using a lens to ensure people appeared far closer than they were. Either that, or library images have been used time and again.

If you want an example of how an image can tell totally the wrong story take a look on the Daily Fail (intended) Sport section this morning. The image used of the challenge leading to a sending off at West Ham yesterday made the challenge, which in most people’s view wasn’t even a foul never mind a red card, look like a vicious, deliberate stamp.

Skilful people, these journalists and photographers.

These arent the media photos (which I understand your mistrust) these are people I know who I won't be going near for a long time now!

I'm just angry lol took our kids to see my nan for only second time since covid (garden visit , social distance) so my nan couldn't hold her great grand kids (all of us bar the kids jabbed)

Then the wife's nan in hospital and won't be coming out and because of covid only her grandad can go see her so she won't get to say goodbye

Think all the taking the mick just grates me further
 
And it may sound harsh but if a few of them start getting seriously ill/dying I'm afraid my sympathy levels will be very low to non existent :mad:

Luckily that’s unlikely given that they’re relatively unaffected by this. Remember that, from their point of view, this has been about protecting the vulnerable and the NHS, not themselves and never had been. The vulnerable have now been protected so they’re probably happy to take their chances now.
 
I have been hearing that we will deffo have a third wave and I could not work out how and who. Listening to me lad this morning and last night Ave a fair idea where this wave is coming from. ☹️

Where did you hear that from and when, exactly, is it going to strike?
 
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Where did you hear that from and when is it going to strike?

Surely we are at the point now through both vaccinations and time of year that a third wave is unlikely. Vaccinations mean that those who are most likely to catch Covid badly and end up in hospital are pretty much all covered. We are getting to the time of year we’re spending time outside is more palatable and outdoor transmission has proven to be very minimal. It was almost non existent last year and we didn’t have the vaccine so I am struggling to see how we can suddenly have this third wave. The obvious caveat is a variant that avoids all vaccinations however it has already been suggested that it’s unlikely to be the case at this point.
 
Having seen what i saw whilst working last night i think there could well be a third wave, but it will predominantly affect this younger, selfish stupid generation who seem to be immune from common sense and think rules designed to protect dont apply to them. And it may sound harsh but if a few of them start getting seriously ill/dying I'm afraid my sympathy levels will be very low to non existent :mad:

But if half the population have been jabbed, the 3rd wave will be relatively smaller. If the very young are very safe, and the old are now vaccinated, just what group are at risk? Is the UK reaching the point where any 'wave' will be no worse than the average winter flu?
 
But if half the population have been jabbed, the 3rd wave will be relatively smaller. If the very young are very safe, and the old are now vaccinated, just what group are at risk? Is the UK reaching the point where any 'wave' will be no worse than the average winter flu?

This is most likely correct.

However for me it just stinks that you get those who follow the rules and those who completely disregard them.

Another month until can meet up inside with people

2 months before supposed hugs allowed

Yet you see those who don't give a rat's about it walking down the street no social distancing .. completely dancing on the graves of those who lost their life's to this illness.
 
But if half the population have been jabbed, the 3rd wave will be relatively smaller. If the very young are very safe, and the old are now vaccinated, just what group are at risk? Is the UK reaching the point where any 'wave' will be no worse than the average winter flu?

I guess it all depends on the long term effectiveness of the jab. If it does stop transmission then its job done, if it turns out to not be as effective as hoped in the long turn then who knows?
I did read a scientific opinion that said the UK had reached herd immunity last week, with the number now vaccinated and those with immunity from having had the virus, obviously though this depends on no nasty vaccine proof strains popping up
 
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