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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Swinglowandslow said:
Thanks for that. My point was that the advice to social distance, I.e 2 metres, was given right from the off, by Prof Whitty. And, ( in the hope that it would be adhered to, ) there was an indication that therefore ( with a 2 metre gap between people) masks weren't necessary .
Remember the supermarkets marked out so that everyone was 2 metres apart, well, supposed to be!?
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We can’t get political, and accepting hindsight is a wonderful thing, initially though the W.H.O advised 1 metre and the wearing of masks, some of our scientists thought different and we went 2 metres and no masks, I do wonder sometimes how and when these discussions were had and if we’ll ever find out.
 
Tashyboy said:
Just had a quick google

24th July 2020 the Gov made it mandatory to wear face masks when visiting shops ?
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It was Tash, but not enforced, and it was only this Jan that shops announced (Morrisons I think were the first) that they would refuse entry to those not wearing them, unless they were exempt.
 
pauldj42 said:
It was Tash, but not enforced, and it was only this Jan that shops announced (Morrisons I think were the first) that they would refuse entry to those not wearing them, unless they were exempt.
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Masks have been mandatory here in Spain since mid-March last year. Once you're outside your front gate you wear a mask unless you're sat down in a bar/restaurant or taking part in an energetic sport. I saw one person in the village yesterday without one. He was carrying it but put it on as he walked towards us. That's the first person I've since without a mask since God knows when.

Was disappointed to see so many people in public in a piece ion BBC B'fast this morning not wearing a mask. Why? The message has been broadcast load and clear. If adults can't heed the word, who's to blame? They are, end of. Treated like adults, behave like adults.
 
pauldj42 said:
It was Tash, but not enforced, and it was only this Jan that shops announced (Morrisons I think were the first) that they would refuse entry to those not wearing them, unless they were exempt.
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This is the main issue with it for me. Anyone can be exempt if they want, they just go to Morrisons, ironically enough, and purchase a sunflower lanyard and hey presto, exemption they say. I say selfishness. The government should have jumped on this at the start and insisted any exemptions are by doctors notes only. I have to deal with this all day every day and it boils my piss, knowing this person could be sat there merrily spreading covid germs around and there's not a thing I can do about it, as they are 'exempt'. And its not older people who are more likely to have breathing issues, I would say 95% of the time its teenage girls.
 
SaintHacker said:
This is the main issue with it for me. Anyone can be exempt if they want, they just go to Morrisons, ironically enough, and purchase a sunflower lanyard and hey presto, exemption they say. I say selfishness. The government should have jumped on this at the start and insisted any exemptions are by doctors notes only. I have to deal with this all day every day and it boils my piss, knowing this person could be sat there merrily spreading covid germs around and there's not a thing I can do about it, as they are 'exempt'. And its not older people who are more likely to have breathing issues, I would say 95% of the time its teenage girls.
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Indeed - just because I may be exempt doesn’t mean I couldn‘t try and wear it all the time and put up with it like the rest (and get used to it like the rest) and only when my condition made it impossible or at least very difficult to continue - only then take it off.
 
Just back from taking my wife to get her 2nd jab, only problem was they are only doing AZ today and she had Pfizer before. Was told we need to contact our GP (who had made this appointment) to rebook on a Pfizer day!?
 
I had my first jab last Saturday (Oxford) and felt absolutely dreadful until Monday. I'm 29 years old and have already had the virus so was naiively expecting it to be nothing more than a bit of a dead arm.

I couldn't have been more wrong- it was essentially a more intense version of my covid illness compressed into 36 hours. I felt horrendous!

As others have said, I won't be booking my second jab on my time. It'll be getting done on a Monday or Tuesday!
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I felt fine for 24hrs after the jab then achey for 24hrs after that. All well now. Second jab rearranged for a time and location that suits me better.

As an employer I'm pleased I don't employ some people on this forum. Setting up your second jab so any illness is covered on full pay by your employer is poor.
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From your point of view yeah I’m self employed so I’m easy but them employed people probably see owners making a lot of money while they get to work 40 hours for basic wages not saying that what your company do like as I don’t know
Anyway I’ve had my first jab Friday felt a few aches yesterday but woke up this morning feeling sound
 
Dannyc said:
From your point of view yeah I’m self employed so I’m easy but them employed people probably see owners making a lot of money while they get to work 40 hours for basic wages not saying that what your company do like as I don’t know
Anyway I’ve had my first jab Friday felt a few aches yesterday but woke up this morning feeling sound
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Not every company is Apple or Amazon ?.
 
A lot in the press recently about the expected slow down in vaccinations in April however it’s been announced this morning that the Moderna vaccine should be here within 3 weeks or so which will hopefully get the numbers up again.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
As an employer I'm pleased I don't employ some people on this forum. Setting up your second jab so any illness is covered on full pay by your employer is poor.
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Arranged my first jab for last Sunday, not to enable me to take sickness but because I'd rather feel like crap at work on a Monday than at home over a weekend.
Having said that, don't assume all employers are as good as you might be. Lots have treated their staff poorly over the last 12 months.
 
RichA said:
Arranged my first jab for last Sunday, not to enable me to take sickness but because I'd rather feel like crap at work on a Monday than at home over a weekend.
Having said that, don't assume all employers are as good as you might be. Lots have treated their staff poorly over the last 12 months.
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It's a two way process and being a bad employer is as poor as being a bad employee. I've been on the receiving end before my current situation so I am well aware of both sides.

Part of my point would be that any boss will make mental notes of little tricks and these will be stored away for future times. Things have been hugely tricky for many companies over these last 12 months and tough decisions will still be to come. If people want to make that decision making process easier for bosses then crack on. I'm sure they will be grateful ?
 
Lord Tyrion said:
It's a two way process and being a bad employer is as poor as being a bad employee. I've been on the receiving end before my current situation so I am well aware of both sides.

Part of my point would be that any boss will make mental notes of little tricks and these will be stored away for future times. Things have been hugely tricky for many companies over these last 12 months and tough decisions will still be to come. If people want to make that decision making process easier for bosses then crack on. I'm sure they will be grateful ?
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I know there are employees who swing the lead, but I believe that most don't.
Generally at work, I just want to be kept busy, get my stuff done, get paid, go home. I make no apology for valuing my personal time more highly than the hours my employer pays me for.
I'm lucky. I get sick pay, though rarely use it, and have the opportunity to work from home if I'm fit to work but can't make it in.
Plenty are less fortunate. A huge number of folks are working on minimum wage for giant service industry contractors. As good as my employer is, the cleaning, maintenance and canteen staff are employed by such a firm. No work, no pay. Self-isolating with symptoms, no pay. Self-isolating with a cohabitee who's tested positive, no pay.
I wonder how much spread of the virus has been caused by people at work when they shouldn't be, because they have to pay the rent and feed their children.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I felt fine for 24hrs after the jab then achey for 24hrs after that. All well now. Second jab rearranged for a time and location that suits me better.

As an employer I'm pleased I don't employ some people on this forum. Setting up your second jab so any illness is covered on full pay by your employer is poor.
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Would you rather have your staff coming in on a Monday feeling totally wiped out and unrested from two days of suffering after a Friday evening jab?
 
Kellfire said:
Would you rather have your staff coming in on a Monday feeling totally wiped out and unrested from two days of suffering after a Friday evening jab?
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I think he's saying some people are purposely booking their jabs for after a weekend, so if they get ill it won't be in their own time ie spoil their weekend.
 
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