Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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Fully accept that, just the wording of the original post that we are all to blame, we are not. Some people are to blame, many are not and others suffer as a result and so said others have a right to feel disgruntled about being locked down (which was the point of the original post). Me, I have pretty much reached the end of my tether. I have followed the rules pretty much to the letter, I have not interacted with another human being who is not my wife or my boss as work for 3 months and I am struggling like hell at weekends, no energy, no motivation, no pressure valve to release the stress from the working week and I have done this solidly for 3 months and, to be honest, had limited contact before that. I am actually reaching the stage where i understand why people travel to walk, why people say sod it and have friends round etc because I am losing the plot a bit to be honest (basically work is keeping me sane).
But that was my point, if as a society we don't all make a real effort to stop infection rates then we end up as we are now. I assure you I am as bored with all of this as anyone and don't even have a job now to keep me distracted.

For clarification, when I say 'We' I don't mean you or any individual, I'm referring to society as a whole.
 

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But, maybe we would be, maybe putting us in the same type of Lockdown in Oct/Nov may of saved thousands of lives, but with shops, business’s and every other thing pushing the envelope we’d of still needed this lockdown.

Last April we were warned the Autumn and Winter ahead were possibly going to be rough.
I'm not convinced shops are a major contributor to infection rates. I believe most of it happens through socialising, in the home and from schools.
 

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Fully accept that, just the wording of the original post that we are all to blame, we are not. Some people are to blame, many are not and others suffer as a result and so said others have a right to feel disgruntled about being locked down (which was the point of the original post). Me, I have pretty much reached the end of my tether. I have followed the rules pretty much to the letter, I have not interacted with another human being who is not my wife or my boss as work for 3 months and I am struggling like hell at weekends, no energy, no motivation, no pressure valve to release the stress from the working week and I have done this solidly for 3 months and, to be honest, had limited contact before that. I am actually reaching the stage where i understand why people travel to walk, why people say sod it and have friends round etc because I am losing the plot a bit to be honest (basically work is keeping me sane).

If it is any consolation you are not alone. :(
 

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Fully accept that, just the wording of the original post that we are all to blame, we are not. Some people are to blame, many are not and others suffer as a result and so said others have a right to feel disgruntled about being locked down (which was the point of the original post). Me, I have pretty much reached the end of my tether. I have followed the rules pretty much to the letter, I have not interacted with another human being who is not my wife or my boss as work for 3 months and I am struggling like hell at weekends, no energy, no motivation, no pressure valve to release the stress from the working week and I have done this solidly for 3 months and, to be honest, had limited contact before that. I am actually reaching the stage where i understand why people travel to walk, why people say sod it and have friends round etc because I am losing the plot a bit to be honest (basically work is keeping me sane).

I don't think you are alone in those feelings and I think we are rapidly reaching the tipping point where even those who have followed the guidelines and 'done their bit' are close to breaking point. Back in March Sage were talking about the need to be careful with restrictions due to fatigue amongst the population and now, almost a year one, we are no better off. I think something will have to give in the coming weeks or month.
 

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I don't think you are alone in those feelings and I think we are rapidly reaching the tipping point where even those who have followed the guidelines and 'done their bit' are close to breaking point. Back in March Sage were talking about the need to be careful with restrictions due to fatigue amongst the population and now, almost a year one, we are no better off. I think something will have to give in the coming weeks or month.

Very much agree, and I consider myself lucky in that we had a short time in Tier 2. There are areas of the country that have been in Tier 3 or higher restrictions pretty much since last March. Really not surprised that some are deviating from the rules.
 

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I don't think you are alone in those feelings and I think we are rapidly reaching the tipping point where even those who have followed the guidelines and 'done their bit' are close to breaking point. Back in March Sage were talking about the need to be careful with restrictions due to fatigue amongst the population and now, almost a year one, we are no better off. I think something will have to give in the coming weeks or month.
What can give though?
IMO we just have to hold on now however difficult, the vaccination program is moving fast the most vunrable should have received a first jab in around three weeks. It would be reckless for people to start giving up now.
 

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What can give though?
IMO we just have to hold on now however difficult, the vaccination program is moving fast the most vunrable should have received a first jab in around three weeks. It would be reckless for people to start giving up now.

I personally think the tipping point will be when we have got to the point where the most vulnerable have all received their jabs. It's at that point where the Government will have to open things up otherwise people will just start doing it on their own. For those of us who are unlikely to see a vaccination until Autumn anyway we might as well get out there and doing things as it's not like we can hide away until that happens. If I happen to catch it in the meantime then so be it but the point of lockdown etc was protecting the NHS and the vulnerable. As soon as those two things are done then they should get on with it. I know SAGE are going to be keen to push things as late as they can however I don't know if the public will stand for that once those who were in danger have what they need.
 

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I personally think the tipping point will be when we have got to the point where the most vulnerable have all received their jabs. It's at that point where the Government will have to open things up otherwise people will just start doing it on their own. For those of us who are unlikely to see a vaccination until Autumn anyway we might as well get out there and doing things as it's not like we can hide away until that happens. If I happen to catch it in the meantime then so be it but the point of lockdown etc was protecting the NHS and the vulnerable. As soon as those two things are done then they should get on with it. I know SAGE are going to be keen to push things as late as they can however I don't know if the public will stand for that once those who were in danger have what they need.
Things just won't return to normal at the end of February. It's going to be a return to tiers again.
If people decide they won't accept the ongoing regulations then it will be a test of State verses the Protesters. I hope it's not going to get to that as there will not be any good outcomes there.
 

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I don't think you are alone in those feelings and I think we are rapidly reaching the tipping point where even those who have followed the guidelines and 'done their bit' are close to breaking point. Back in March Sage were talking about the need to be careful with restrictions due to fatigue amongst the population and now, almost a year one, we are no better off. I think something will have to give in the coming weeks or month.

Come on , fellas. Stop this talk about being so pissed with this that you are thinking of breaking the rules and guidance and joining in the behaviour of the idiots that are spreading it.
Are you going to throw it all away? Are you going to crap on all the efforts of those Drs and nurses working themselves to near breaking point - and you think we are at breaking point?
Because you are so angry at the muppets, and frustrated that this bastard virus is messing up our lives? Sure it is the case, but we are still not in hospital fight in to stay alive are we? We are nowhere near as badly off as a lot of people.
We are nearly there. The vaccinations are going apace. The figures are going the right way now.
It's not going to help telling each other we are thinking of throwing it all away.
 

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Things just won't return to normal at the end of February. It's going to be a return to tiers again.
If people decide they won't accept the ongoing regulations then it will be a test of State verses the Protesters. I hope it's not going to get to that as there will not be any good outcomes there.

I’m not suggesting or expecting normality however I am expecting relaxations to be made and for it not to be done at a snails pace because SAGE demand it. If the 14m or so most vulnerable have been vaccinated and the NHS are not in danger of being overwhelmed then there are no excuses. As I said though, I am also not suggesting that over night we are suddenly unleashed.
 

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Come on , fellas. Stop this talk about being so pissed with this that you are thinking of breaking the rules and guidance and joining in the behaviour of the idiots that are spreading it.
Are you going to throw it all away? Are you going to crap on all the efforts of those Drs and nurses working themselves to near breaking point - and you think we are at breaking point?
Because you are so angry at the muppets, and frustrated that this bastard virus is messing up our lives? Sure it is the case, but we are still not in hospital fight in to stay alive are we? We are nowhere near as badly off as a lot of people.
We are nearly there. The vaccinations are going apace. The figures are going the right way now.
It's not going to help telling each other we are thinking of throwing it all away.

I don’t think anyone was suggestion that we were going to start breaking the rules. It was more of a general comment of reaching a point where it was getting harder and harder. We’ve got this far so I’m happy to keep going for the time period that is left however once we’ve reached the point of protecting the vulnerable I would expect a significant amount of relaxations.
 

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My poor eldest in isolation still because of contact with a postive test

Got permission from 111 to break it to take her hospital .. well the wife has

Broke her arm running in the kitchen

Sod going for a drive arguement the home is deadly
 

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I’m not suggesting or expecting normality however I am expecting relaxations to be made and for it not to be done at a snails pace because SAGE demand it. If the 14m or so most vulnerable have been vaccinated and the NHS are not in danger of being overwhelmed then there are no excuses. As I said though, I am also not suggesting that over night we are suddenly unleashed.
The Tier system is a relaxation from the Lockdown.
 

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The Tier system is a relaxation from the Lockdown.

Indeed but if we're put back into Tier 3 or 4 so no mixing of other households that's hardly much of a relaxation. Even Tier 2 means you cannot meet members of other households inside and given we're in winter it's hardly an enticing thought to go and stand in someone's garden.
 
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Still 35,000 in hospital so nothing will change until that figure drops very very significantly. So no matter how much daily cases drop we still weeks behind hospital cases catch up.

Or course mate - it’s just showing that the lockdown is working , it’s bringing those cases down and over the next couple of weeks the numbers in hospitals and deaths will follow on from that.

The worry for me now is the issue with the vaccine and the EU with them potentially blocking exporting it
 

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Indeed but if we're put back into Tier 3 or 4 so no mixing of other households that's hardly much of a relaxation. Even Tier 2 means you cannot meet members of other households inside and given we're in winter it's hardly an enticing thought to go and stand in someone's garden.
A Tier system will be used to target local infection rates and NHS pressures. It is a relaxation in regards to shops, sports, travel.

Do you suggest meeting other households inside be a priority.

We just need to keep ahead of the curve so that we don't blow it.
 
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