Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Kellfire said:
The variant that has been making a lot of the news this past few weeks may be linked to higher mortality, as per today’s news. Just need to make sure we don’t let things slip now and let it sneak back up again.
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It will sneak up again when things get opened up again albeit hopefully slowly.
The vaccine is key ,even when everyone has had both which is probably 6 months away it can still be passed.
I think someone has mentioned before we will have to live with it and adapt accordingly.
 
Kellfire said:
The variant that has been making a lot of the news this past few weeks may be linked to higher mortality, as per today’s news. Just need to make sure we don’t let things slip now and let it sneak back up again.
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Was this the quote?.....
"It is a realistic possibility that the new UK variant increases the risk of death, but there is considerable remaining uncertainty''.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Did the gp explain why people were ignoring the rules? Not just the 400 idiots but the other cases they suggest?

I can't get my head around it.

On an upbeat note my wife has just checked the numbers locally and apparently we have just 4 infections right now in my town. The numbers have been low for a while but this is the best yet.
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I think it is cultural factors, shared by the attendees at the event in the news.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Did the gp explain why people were ignoring the rules? Not just the 400 idiots but the other cases they suggest?

I can't get my head around it.

On an upbeat note my wife has just checked the numbers locally and apparently we have just 4 infections right now in my town. The numbers have been low for a while but this is the best yet.
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"These celebrations are happening all over Stamford Hill and NW London unfortunately. The police engage in a bit of finger wagging and people budget the fines into the cost of their wedding/ barmitzvah etc. It is bloody shocking behaviour and noone will do anything - not sure why. On a Saturday I can no longer walk around the corner to sit in my lonely mum’s garden (with her inside- we are a bubble but feel unsafe to meet properly) because of the crowds of people in the streets on the way to worship (believe me, for worship also read socialise) Not a mask in sight.

Last time I tried I nearly got knocked down as I was forced to walk in the road. I saw at least 2 small premises rammed with worshippers and a few outdoor closed gazebos full of flowers ready for a party. None of this is hidden. All in plain sight. It is maddening. There was a letter recently to the community from some high up police person saying we might caution wrongdoers the first time. But each celebration member will only be making one party so this was hot air. Oh and many don’t have TV, internet and only read newspapers produced by their own community so it is hard to get through to them. There is the ‘will of God’ attitude to catching Covid and /or dying. No thought for the world around them or the people who may need to treat them. Oh and many are anti vax."
 
Ethan said:
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"These celebrations are happening all over Stamford Hill and NW London unfortunately. The police engage in a bit of finger wagging and people budget the fines into the cost of their wedding/ barmitzvah etc. It is bloody shocking behaviour and noone will do anything - not sure why. On a Saturday I can no longer walk around the corner to sit in my lonely mum’s garden (with her inside- we are a bubble but feel unsafe to meet properly) because of the crowds of people in the streets on the way to worship (believe me, for worship also read socialise) Not a mask in sight.

Last time I tried I nearly got knocked down as I was forced to walk in the road. I saw at least 2 small premises rammed with worshippers and a few outdoor closed gazebos full of flowers ready for a party. None of this is hidden. All in plain sight. It is maddening. There was a letter recently to the community from some high up police person saying we might caution wrongdoers the first time. But each celebration member will only be making one party so this was hot air. Oh and many don’t have TV, internet and only read newspapers produced by their own community so it is hard to get through to them. There is the ‘will of God’ attitude to catching Covid and /or dying. No thought for the world around them or the people who may need to treat them. Oh and many are anti vax."
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Is there a head scratching or head exploding emoji?

The police need to patrol this area en masse for the next few weeks and get heavy with people. If fines won't stop them then start arresting and take people away. It's mind boggling.
 
Ethan said:
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"These celebrations are happening all over Stamford Hill and NW London unfortunately. The police engage in a bit of finger wagging and people budget the fines into the cost of their wedding/ barmitzvah etc. It is bloody shocking behaviour and noone will do anything - not sure why. On a Saturday I can no longer walk around the corner to sit in my lonely mum’s garden (with her inside- we are a bubble but feel unsafe to meet properly) because of the crowds of people in the streets on the way to worship (believe me, for worship also read socialise) Not a mask in sight.

Last time I tried I nearly got knocked down as I was forced to walk in the road. I saw at least 2 small premises rammed with worshippers and a few outdoor closed gazebos full of flowers ready for a party. None of this is hidden. All in plain sight. It is maddening. There was a letter recently to the community from some high up police person saying we might caution wrongdoers the first time. But each celebration member will only be making one party so this was hot air. Oh and many don’t have TV, internet and only read newspapers produced by their own community so it is hard to get through to them. There is the ‘will of God’ attitude to catching Covid and /or dying. No thought for the world around them or the people who may need to treat them. Oh and many are anti vax."
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The will of god argument is brilliant. So god didn’t allow doctors and scientists to do their thing - must be the devil’s professions.
 
Ethan said:
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"These celebrations are happening all over Stamford Hill and NW London unfortunately. The police engage in a bit of finger wagging and people budget the fines into the cost of their wedding/ barmitzvah etc. It is bloody shocking behaviour and noone will do anything - not sure why. On a Saturday I can no longer walk around the corner to sit in my lonely mum’s garden (with her inside- we are a bubble but feel unsafe to meet properly) because of the crowds of people in the streets on the way to worship (believe me, for worship also read socialise) Not a mask in sight.

Last time I tried I nearly got knocked down as I was forced to walk in the road. I saw at least 2 small premises rammed with worshippers and a few outdoor closed gazebos full of flowers ready for a party. None of this is hidden. All in plain sight. It is maddening. There was a letter recently to the community from some high up police person saying we might caution wrongdoers the first time. But each celebration member will only be making one party so this was hot air. Oh and many don’t have TV, internet and only read newspapers produced by their own community so it is hard to get through to them. There is the ‘will of God’ attitude to catching Covid and /or dying. No thought for the world around them or the people who may need to treat them. Oh and many are anti vax."
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Sadly it's the same in certain areas of Lancashire.
 
pokerjoke said:
It will sneak up again when things get opened up again albeit hopefully slowly.
The vaccine is key ,even when everyone has had both which is probably 6 months away it can still be passed.
I think someone has mentioned before we will have to live with it and adapt accordingly.
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Ethan not long ago described the route to what amounts to herd immunity, such as we have with flu. If enough have the vaccine then we will make conditions such that the vaccine will survive, but hardly. It will try to increase but find it harder and harder, and so become as prevalent as the flu.
So, I don't think we will have to adapt too much at all .
Just so long as we all play our part to get there.
 
If today was anything to go by then we are in a micro bubble. Full, and now moved to yet another theatre and so capacity now 44. We had beds for 48 last time and only got to 42. The trust as a whole has seen Covid numbers increase significantly in the last 24 hours and deaths are up. We are still working on a synopsis much as Ethan laid out earlier and the trust model doesn't see this plateauing for at least a month. My next fear will be rushing back to tier systems and the public not learning any lessons and so by April we'll have gone backwards again until everyone can get the full dosage of the vaccine. It has to change soon. I really can't do too many more shifts like today.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Ethan not long ago described the route to what amounts to herd immunity, such as we have with flu. If enough have the vaccine then we will make conditions such that the vaccine will survive, but hardly. It will try to increase but find it harder and harder, and so become as prevalent as the flu.
So, I don't think we will have to adapt too much at all .
Just so long as we all play our part to get there.
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That’s the end game - for it to be like flu , it will still take lives mainly the vunerable, people will still catch it and suffer for a couple of days etc but we will grow immunity to it with the help of the vaccine ensuing as many as the vunerable get protected.

It’s hard to look forward but the biggest hurdle to get over will be the mental impact and also the financial impact of the virus - that could end up being a harder hit

https://twitter.com/x/status/1352698567304105986
 
Kellfire said:
The will of god argument is brilliant. So god didn’t allow doctors and scientists to do their thing - must be the devil’s professions.
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Well if it is found that many worshippers and places of worship are not adhering to the rules then the government knows exactly what it can do - and that isn't waiting to see how the trend of infection goes - they shut down all places of worship immediately - with no advance lead time given as none is necessary. Dead easy. In a pandemic, he who waits acts too late.
 
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Forgive the naive question, but how does your immunity work if you have had COVID? I’m assuming it’s not like having the vaccine, but your body has fought it off once so is there some level of protection?

My wife had a positive test I’ve Christmas and we were in the house together all of the time after that so I am assuming that I caught it too. I wouldn’t say I had any symptoms worse than a slight headache
 
road2ruin said:
The mayor of Hackney, Philip Glanville, said he was "deeply disappointed" that the wedding party had taken place, despite "the number of lives that have already been lost in the Charedi community and across the borough".

He added: "Unfortunately, similar events have taken place even at this venue before and we need to be really clear how unacceptable it is.

The school should have been fined £10,000 as well IMO especially as they have previous. This would also act as a warning to those who are happy to hire out without asking questions or at least making checks.
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If there is evidence of similar events then those in charge of the venue need to have their control of it removed, by whatever means necessary, and a message needs to be sent.
 
pauljames87 said:
All go in our house today

Father in law symtoms gone for test

Mother in law gone for test aswell

If she's postived (their in our support bubble due to child under 1) we have to isolate for 10 days as we saw her within 48 hours of a postive test etc

However if FIL tests positive and Mil negative we don't

With me so far? Lol

Then 11:30 get a call from daughters pre school .. postive case yesterday so she needs to isolate for 10 days

ATM eldest is isolating

We aren't

Could all change in next few days

Confusing times
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Best of the situation we could ask for so far

The in law's are negative so no need to isolate but also their ok which is main thing

Daughter is isolating for next week , rest of house can come and go unless she gets sick so fingers crossed

Seems fine tho

Time will tell
 
SteveW86 said:
Forgive the naive question, but how does your immunity work if you have had COVID? I’m assuming it’s not like having the vaccine, but your body has fought it off once so is there some level of protection?

My wife had a positive test I’ve Christmas and we were in the house together all of the time after that so I am assuming that I caught it too. I wouldn’t say I had any symptoms worse than a slight headache
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Hopefully, Ethan will explain fully. I know what you mean, in that my little dog is sick and I've been speaking to vet a lot recently. He was away for a while( thought a few days off) and turns out when he came back that he had been isolating. His wife had Covid, and he had had no symptoms whatever.
He couldn't see how he could not have had it, in house with children too,etc.
So he was going to have a antibody test . Spoke days later, the test was negative.
As the Yanks say, "Go Figure".
If I had to bet, knowing next to nowt about it, I would plump for-
1. He had it with no symptoms and he had the antibody test too early for them to show. Or
2. Somehow he escaped infection when he "should" have got infected.

If you have had Covid then you will have antibodies for some while after.
The vaccine will bolster that, giving more / longer protection. This is what I understood Prof Whitby said today
Just my opinion.
Ethan will clarify ?
 
This morning we got the phone call we'd been hoping we wouldn't get. Mrs Colch's dad phoned to say that he couldn't breathe and needed help. Immediately got on to 999 and had paramedics with him within 9 minutes who got him on oxygen and took him back in to hospital. Now back to keeping our fingers crossed that he'll make it though this.
 
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