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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Just had the annual 2 day club champs, very well attended, its a weekend stay away at resort, full events each evening, few staff had masks but that was it, temp tested multiple times entering various parts of the place
Zero distancing in effect by anyone, hugs handshakes aplenty and full free movement between bar/tables

What a release /relief after such a crappy 8 months
(no cases in general population here in 5 months, border partially reopens next week so I'm really glad our club champs was this weekend because I forsee some cases soon after flights resume despite safeguards)

p.s finished 9th
 
pauljames87 said:
Didn't think they were unlikely to catch it more unlikely to be effected by it?
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In Scotland (not sure about rUK) under 12s do not count when limiting numbers who can gather together. That led me to believe that they were less likely to catch it, or more importantly, spread it to others.
 
KenL said:
In Scotland (not sure about rUK) under 12s do not count when limiting numbers who can gather together. That led me to believe that they were less likely to catch it, or more importantly, spread it to others.
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I don't believe that's why that rule was brought in tbh. It sounded just like was more thought out as families will most likely break

Was discussing with my mum yest and I just said the under 12 made sense because 12 is about the age you can start leaving them on there own for a few hours ... So u12s have to go with the parents

Just seemed a more logical thought from the Scottish leaders ..
 
drdel said:
Just like to point out that Apple and Google are the main source of expertise involved with building the AP, can't exactly blame the ÑHS or politicians.
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I don’t think that it is completely accurate statement. Yes the track & trace Bluetooth aspect is based on the
Apple/Google exposure notification stack but the rest of the features are not.
When it initially designed as an tracker+ i really liked the idea. nHS test, checkins, area info all in one app. But this leaves open ends. Given they have spent 35m, 350k beta testing, you would expect that the basics features would already be working. This is not

Ps: BTW, no one yet knows if the track and trace part works either.

PPS: all this is fixable.
 
bobmac said:
Vaccines undergoing trials at Oxford University and in Germany are the most likely candidates to be ready this year, experts have said, but there are also candidates being tested in the US, Russia and China.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...vaccine-coronavirus-news-when-uk-2020-update/
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The Oxford (AZ vaccine, the Pfizer/BioNTech (Germany) one and the Moderna (US)) are all good contenders with slightly different modes of action, so a decent chance of multiple success. I would personally be a bit wary of the China vaccine and wouldn't touch the Russian one with a bargepole. The transparency has been very lacking on those and they simply have not been adequately tested. Because recruitment into the studies for the other vaccines, AZ and so on, has been fast, some phase III results may be available before the end of the year and arrangements for expedited approval are underway, probably on a conditional basis.

The bigger problem is roll out. Giving most of the people in the world a vaccine is a ginormous and unprecedented logistical issue, starting with manufacturing and distribution but also administration. Every country will have to figure out how to prioritise, likely starting with healthcare workers and the most vulnerable in care homes, as well as politicians and key donors, of course, then spilling down risk categories ending up with the young.
 
Kaz said:
I think you misunderstand the role of the tech giants in this. Or misrepresent it for political reasons.
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Don't infer a political inference. Read statement by the MD of Digital Health on the API access and çross platform work by Apple and Google.
 
drdel said:
Don't infer a political inference. Read statement by the MD of Digital Health on the API access and çross platform work by Apple and Google.
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Yes they use the apple/google for the contact part. The rest of the feature are developed independently. They are great features but currently not working as they should be.
Not throwing rocks at politicians, they can’t run the country let alone an App. The app has been in testing for a while and now in general release.. surely it has to updated by now.
The check-in feature is a bit like.. I can order an Uber, get the ride. It then drops me off somewhere but the meter keeps running till I book another one later in the day.
The test registration is a basic requirement. The way it has been implemented, it may require them to update the testing system to provide a code rather than updating the app (unless they change the approach). Again not an impossible task if the design is more robust otherwise a case of tail wagging the dog. This should have been flagged up in beta testing in Newham and IoW.
 
Ethan said:
The UK Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation have just issued their Covid vaccine prioritisation advice. Teachers are not specifically selected out: JCVI 25/09
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Tnx 4 sharing... no surprise there on priorities. I would have thought NHS hospital staff would be priority.
I hope they are reviewing the logistics needed for this. Again Easier to deliver to NHS hospital based staff - can be rolled out as mass exercise. The challenge will be to roll out wider. Hopefully they get the army logistics specialist rather than Chris Grayling style politicians.
 
Mudball said:
Yes they use the apple/google for the contact part. The rest of the feature are developed independently. They are great features but currently not working as they should be.
Not throwing rocks at politicians, they can’t run the country let alone an App. The app has been in testing for a while and now in general release.. surely it has to updated by now.
The check-in feature is a bit like.. I can order an Uber, get the ride. It then drops me off somewhere but the meter keeps running till I book another one later in the day.
The test registration is a basic requirement. The way it has been implemented, it may require them to update the testing system to provide a code rather than updating the app (unless they change the approach). Again not an impossible task if the design is more robust otherwise a case of tail wagging the dog. This should have been flagged up in beta testing in Newham and IoW.
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Who is this 'they'to which you refer? Not one politician is among the programmers.

It is easy to say 'they', but actually it means nowt until you go down the decision and design chain to the person who wrote code.
 
The rules whatever they are are irrelevant if people will not follow them. The more people that feel they are unjust or unfair the less they will follow them. It was why it was important to get it right first time and make them clear and make sense.

Additionally until hospital cases and deaths rise a lot of people are thinking it's not that bad so why worry.

Personally it's worrying times.
 
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