• We'd like to take this opportunity to wish you a Happy Holidays and a very Merry Christmas from all at Golf Monthly. Thank you for sharing your 2025 with us!

Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Blue in Munich said:
It's here if anyone wants to watch;

https://metro.co.uk/video/police-pepper-spray-train-passenger-refused-wear-face-mask-2242648/

His two mates are as bad.
Click to expand...

I see our friends at the Daily Mail initially ran this with a headline along the lines of “This is the SHOCKING moment police used CS spray on a train passenger for refusing to wear a mask.”

Erm, no, that wasn’t why he was sprayed now, was it? Never ones to let the truth get in the way of (yet another) anti-police rant, the Mail.

:rolleyes:

Footnote: it would seem, in an effort not to appear like utter halfwits, that the Mail has now edited its headline. The halfwits.
 
People who complain about having to come home early from holiday abroad makes me realize how selfish they are.
While most would prefer not to import the virus by staying at home, foreign tourists seem quite happy to increase the risk.

Britain is nearly infinite. For its size it has the most varied scenery and history in the world. So stay here and forget about some overseas destination that sooner or later you may find is no more than a hole anyway.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Billysboots said:
I see our friends at the Daily Mail initially ran this with a headline along the lines of “This is the SHOCKING moment police used CS spray on a train passenger for refusing to wear a mask.”

Erm, no, that wasn’t why he was sprayed now, was it? Never ones to let the truth get in the way of (yet another) anti-police rant, the Mail.

:rolleyes:

Footnote: it would seem, in an effort not to appear like utter halfwits, that the Mail has now edited its headline. The halfwits.
Click to expand...
Bailed to appear in Court in Jan, the way he was dressed it looked like a bloke on his way home from work, not excusing his behaviour or reaction, but as has been asked, why was he being removed from the train if, as he was stating, he has a medical exemption, ie, how did it get to the point of the BTP having to be called?
 
stefanovic said:
People who complain about having to come home early from holiday abroad makes me realize how selfish they are.
While most would prefer not to import the virus by staying at home, foreign tourists seem quite happy to increase the risk.

Britain is nearly infinite. For its size it has the most varied scenery and history in the world. So stay here and forget about some overseas destination that sooner or later you may find is no more than a hole anyway.
Click to expand...
You mean the people that have gone to countries with lower infection rates than ours?
Not everyone can afford to simply write a holiday off and go next year, or rebook somehwere this year.


For some. 2020 could have been there first holiday in years. If the government say they can go. Why shouldn't they?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
MegaSteve said:
Are there any medical conditions/reasons why visors cannot be specified as an alternative when masks/facecoverings can't be used...

A mate has COPD and uses a visor rather than a mask and has had no complaints...
Click to expand...

There are few medical conditions that genuinely preclude wearing a mask. Asthma is often cited, but asthma is a condition of breathing out not in, and many asthmatic surgeons and theatre staff wear masks all day with no problem. People should not be allowed to self-determine that they have a valid medical condition, since the main benefit of the mask is to others and people should not be able to lightly choose to put others more at risk.
 
stefanovic said:
People who complain about having to come home early from holiday abroad makes me realize how selfish they are.
While most would prefer not to import the virus by staying at home, foreign tourists seem quite happy to increase the risk.

Britain is nearly infinite. For its size it has the most varied scenery and history in the world. So stay here and forget about some overseas destination that sooner or later you may find is no more than a hole anyway.
Click to expand...

The availability in the UK over the summer was extremely limited and whilst Britain may be 'infinite' based on some criteria you are using, availability certainly was not. Gone are the days where any foreign holiday was an expensive extravagance and holidaying in the UK is the cheap option. I was in North Norfolk in the summer and I saw a field on which someone has put a few static caravans. And outside of these were parked a BMW X5, Discovery, and some Mercedes SUV. So unless you had booked a bit ago chances are you'd have the dregs of what is left and pay over the odds for it, with absolutely no guarantee of nice weather. And in those circumstances can you blame someone for going overseas when at the time the government had said it was OK to travel, with a much better guarantee of weather and probably cheaper than a static caravan in Thornham.

And has already been pointed out, the infection rates are often lower in these resorts than they are in the cities or towns the holiday makers come back to.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
stefanovic said:
People who complain about having to come home early from holiday abroad makes me realize how selfish they are.
While most would prefer not to import the virus by staying at home, foreign tourists seem quite happy to increase the risk.

Britain is nearly infinite. For its size it has the most varied scenery and history in the world. So stay here and forget about some overseas destination that sooner or later you may find is no more than a hole anyway.
Click to expand...

Yay, can’t wait to be sipping sangria, and donning my best beach shorts while ogling bikini clad women on the east coast next week! :rolleyes:

On a serious note any good dog walking beaches on the Lincolnshire coast and not full of Skegnessians? Driving from Woodhall Spa.
 
Hacker Khan said:
The availability in the UK over the summer was extremely limited and whilst Britain may be 'infinite' based on some criteria you are using, availability certainly was not. Gone are the days where any foreign holiday was an expensive extravagance and holidaying in the UK is the cheap option. I was in North Norfolk in the summer and I saw a field on which someone has put a few static caravans. And outside of these were parked a BMW X5, Discovery, and some Mercedes SUV. So unless you had booked a bit ago chances are you'd have the dregs of what is left and pay over the odds for it, with absolutely no guarantee of nice weather. And in those circumstances can you blame someone for going overseas when at the time the government had said it was OK to travel, with a much better guarantee of weather and probably cheaper than a static caravan in Thornham.

And has already been pointed out, the infection rates are often lower in these resorts than they are in the cities or towns the holiday makers come back to.
Click to expand...

The U.K. has been horrendously expensive for years. If you can get a reasonably priced flight, holidaying in Europe is cheap as chips in comparison.

On more than one occasion we have taken the tunnel, driven into France and rented some wonderful properties for a fortnight and paid less than the weekly price of a static van overlooking the North Sea. It’s an absolute no brainier.

If the U.K. tourist industry continues to struggle they have only themselves to blame. The prices they charge are nothing short of daylight robbery.
 
I've just started going back to the office 2-3 days a week initially as we can socially distance effectively, been working from home since lockdown and doing videocalls like the majority of people it seems. Loads more golf than normal and very productive working days. Although its hard to switch off at home. Some people in the office havn't stepped foot in there since March and don't plant to anytime soon. As long as projects continue to meet deadlines and work loads are completed we have a fairly understanding boss.

We went to Singapore, Bali and Hong Kong in March as UK cases were still low, in fact numbers were higher in those areas and we had some cancelled flights late into our break however nothing was closed and nothing enforced other than temperature checks and hand sanitization. It was surreal as Coronavirus seriously picked up whilst we were out there and at one stage we thought we were going to be staying for a few more weeks in Bali than planned as it ramped up so quickly.
 
IainP said:
Not noticed @Hobbit on for a bit, hope all is well.
Spain's cases at March levels, be interested in how viewed over there.
Click to expand...

Imurg said:
He was on the forum 27 minutes ago..(y)
Click to expand...

Still around but after being far too bad tempered with a few people I'm reading, not writing.

Covid here is rising. Even our little village, and a few of the villages around us that escaped it first time round have a number of cases. Hospital admissions, including into ICU, are rising along with an increase in the number of deaths.

For our little corner of Spain the numbers jumped quite quickly when the tourists arrived, especially the Madridians. August's over, and getting a decent car parking space isn't a problem again. Hopefully the numbers will start dropping.
 
Hobbit said:
Still around but after being far too bad tempered with a few people I'm reading, not writing.
...
Click to expand...
Forum pic doubly appropriate then!;)
Hope you stay healthy. The tendency for Brits (and Germans) to generally obey 'rules' (even while moaning about them) more than other Europeans seems to me to be demonstrated during the pandemic. I work with a guy from Madeira who has pretty much ignored SD from day 1 - though has tested negative on one of his excursions.
Apathy will be the most likely reason for a further wave of infections imo!
 
Hacker Khan said:
The availability in the UK over the summer was extremely limited and whilst Britain may be 'infinite' based on some criteria you are using, availability certainly was not. Gone are the days where any foreign holiday was an expensive extravagance and holidaying in the UK is the cheap option. I was in North Norfolk in the summer and I saw a field on which someone has put a few static caravans. And outside of these were parked a BMW X5, Discovery, and some Mercedes SUV. So unless you had booked a bit ago chances are you'd have the dregs of what is left and pay over the odds for it, with absolutely no guarantee of nice weather. And in those circumstances can you blame someone for going overseas when at the time the government had said it was OK to travel, with a much better guarantee of weather and probably cheaper than a static caravan in Thornham.

And has already been pointed out, the infection rates are often lower in these resorts than they are in the cities or towns the holiday makers come back to.
Click to expand...

It isn't as simple as that. The government cannot start selecting just parts, or regions of a country to differentiate whether to quarantine from one and not the other. Because in practice, some people ,in parts requiring quarantine , would go to the "safe" region to fly home from there. As always, anything to avoid the quarantine. Allowing non quarantine from selected regions is therefore not practicable.
If someone goes abroad to a country against the advise of the government, or having been told that there is a real possibility that quarantine may be imposed on you by the time you are to return, then there is no basis for complaining that it has happened, if it turns out that way.
 
Hobbit said:
Still around but after being far too bad tempered with a few people I'm reading, not writing.

Covid here is rising. Even our little village, and a few of the villages around us that escaped it first time round have a number of cases. Hospital admissions, including into ICU, are rising along with an increase in the number of deaths.

For our little corner of Spain the numbers jumped quite quickly when the tourists arrived, especially the Madridians. August's over, and getting a decent car parking space isn't a problem again. Hopefully the numbers will start dropping.
Click to expand...

Your comments are missed (y)
 
Hobbit said:
Still around but after being far too bad tempered with a few people I'm reading, not writing.

Covid here is rising. Even our little village, and a few of the villages around us that escaped it first time round have a number of cases. Hospital admissions, including into ICU, are rising along with an increase in the number of deaths.

For our little corner of Spain the numbers jumped quite quickly when the tourists arrived, especially the Madridians. August's over, and getting a decent car parking space isn't a problem again. Hopefully the numbers will start dropping.
Click to expand...


sad to see yet another of the better posters on here not posting (as much or at all) :(
 
Swinglowandslow said:
It isn't as simple as that. The government cannot start selecting just parts, or regions of a country to differentiate whether to quarantine from one and not the other. Because in practice, some people ,in parts requiring quarantine , would go to the "safe" region to fly home from there. As always, anything to avoid the quarantine. Allowing non quarantine from selected regions is therefore not practicable.
If someone goes abroad to a country against the advise of the government, or having been told that there is a real possibility that quarantine may be imposed on you by the time you are to return, then there is no basis for complaining that it has happened, if it turns out that way.
Click to expand...

That is literally any foreign travel then. Also if someone went to the Canaries which had a low infection rate and there was a bad outbreak in say Bilbao, then should the person who went to the Canaries be quarantined? Will all those in in Bilbao fly down to the Canaries before flying home? Just because there will be a small handful of people who can a) afford to start booking extra flights at short notice and b) are that bothered doesn't mean that you should blanket a whole country or region if any outbreaks are localized to a few towns or areas.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top