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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

sad to see yet another of the better posters on here not posting (as much or at all) :(

Hopefully the demise of my ill thought out post about opinions on Covid will see him return. Have to say the vitriol that pervaded that particular thread was enough to keep me off the forum.
 
The U.K. has been horrendously expensive for years. If you can get a reasonably priced flight, holidaying in Europe is cheap as chips in comparison.

On more than one occasion we have taken the tunnel, driven into France and rented some wonderful properties for a fortnight and paid less than the weekly price of a static van overlooking the North Sea. It’s an absolute no brainier.

If the U.K. tourist industry continues to struggle they have only themselves to blame. The prices they charge are nothing short of daylight robbery.

Surely they can not be to blame for Covid meaning people can't go on holidays in the UK? It wasn't that they priced themselves out of the market from March to July.

And as for struggling other than from the impact of Covid, then from what I saw by holidaying in the UK over the summer everywhere was rammed. Be interesting to see how that plays out in future years.
 
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Surely they can not be to blame for Covid meaning people can't go on holidays in the UK? It wasn't that they priced themselves out of the market from March to July.

And as for struggling other than from the impact of Covid, then from what I saw by holidaying in the UK over the summer everywhere was rammed. Be interesting to see how that plays out in future years.

I’m not really talking about the impact or otherwise of Covid. As a holiday destination the U.K. has been extortionately expensive for years.

The last time I even contemplated renting a static during the summer holidays I was generally looking at not less than £1k per week. Really? That same year I found a three bed cottage in almost two acres of grounds with private pool in Southern Brittany for £1.2k for a fortnight.

I shudder to think how much that would have cost me in the U.K..
 
Nearly 3k new infections yesterday and mainly through young people. Something needs doing to make them act more responsibly.

For the under 29’s the survival rate is around 99.9997% assuming no underlying health conditions. Can you honestly say that if you were in that age group you’d be taking this whole thing too seriously? Being brutally honest the 21yr old me would have probably been going about life normally, I don’t think I’d be listening too much. These guys have had (and will have) large portions of their lives completely changed in a negative way for a virus that is almost complete harmless to them. Obviously there is the issue of spread to those who are vulnerable however in purely trying to put myself in the mindset of someone of that age.
 
I agree with R2R. With the death rate falling daily And people being told to go out. Pubs opening etc, it’s obvious youngsters were going to mix And their figures rise.

My younger siblings are all living pretty normal lives now. With the exception to that being that when they See family they are keeping more distance.
 
Nearly 3k new infections yesterday and mainly through young people. Something needs doing to make them act more responsibly.

The lack of responsibility being evidenced by the number of young people that consider the requirement wear masks on public transport doesn't apply to them. Unless of course we have a younger generation who have the worst level of underlying health conditions for years... :unsure:

No, I'm going for lack of responsibility or selfishness.
 
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The lack of responsibility being evidenced by the number of you people that consider the requirement wear masks on public transport to them. Unless of course we have a younger generation who have the worst level of underlying health conditions for years... :unsure:

No, I'm going for lack of responsibility or selfishness.

I'd argue that is not exclusive to the younger generation. And indeed they may well throw that accusation back at us oldies.
 
I didn't say it was exclusive to the young, I said I believed it was a cause of the younger generation not wearing masks on public transport.

To be fair, in my area the non wearing of masks doesn’t seem to be with one particular age range, in fact I’d say it’s more the older (40yrs plus) lot who have taken more offence to being asked to wear a mask, most of the younger people I see seem to be doing as told.
 
From what I have seen near me, the youngsters are good with masks and poor at social distancing whilst the older generation are the opposite, decent social distancing but the masks are on for as little time as possible, incorrectly worn or sometimes not worn at all
 
I'd argue that is not exclusive to the younger generation. And indeed they may well throw that accusation back at us oldies.
Its not exclusive to them but the vast number of new infections are from young people, the problem is not how seriously it will effect them (and it will make some of them extremely ill) it's that they are keeping the virus pool large. How would they feel if young people were most at risk of death and older people were not affected badly and older people were acting irresponsibly, I would say in this situation older people would be doing all they could to protect their younger families.
 
For the under 29’s the survival rate is around 99.9997% assuming no underlying health conditions. Can you honestly say that if you were in that age group you’d be taking this whole thing too seriously? Being brutally honest the 21yr old me would have probably been going about life normally, I don’t think I’d be listening too much. These guys have had (and will have) large portions of their lives completely changed in a negative way for a virus that is almost complete harmless to them. Obviously there is the issue of spread to those who are vulnerable however in purely trying to put myself in the mindset of someone of that age.

It is true that survival rate is very high in young people, but it is becoming clear that there is a much higher risk of complications, even in the young, than first thought. This ranges from fatigue and continued loss of taste to meatier stuff like myocarditis and encephalitis. I think the young should still exercise some caution and not be too blasé.
 
To be fair, in my area the non wearing of masks doesn’t seem to be with one particular age range, in fact I’d say it’s more the older (40yrs plus) lot who have taken more offence to being asked to wear a mask, most of the younger people I see seem to be doing as told.
I'm talking about infection rates and it's the young increasing them, who wears masks and how doesn't change that fact.
 
I was due to visit my mum next weekend but with the latest extension of restrictions that would now be against the rules. However, we could arrange to meet her in a pub or restaurant instead. I just can't see how that can possibly be considered safer.

The government's got this wrong I think.
It depends how much lockdown you are comfortable with and if you would prefer everything to be taken out of your own control.
 
I was due to visit my mum next weekend but with the latest extension of restrictions that would now be against the rules. However, we could arrange to meet her in a pub or restaurant instead. I just can't see how that can possibly be considered safer.

The government's got this wrong I think.

if it is anywhere close to Barnard castle.. then you should be alright - normal rules dont apply
 
My eldest daughter is due to give birth in two months time. Ideally, we would like to fly in, mid Oct, a couple of weeks before the due date. We'd use the the time beforehand to visit family and friends, and then be around for the birth. That's the ideal, but there's Covid to consider.

Obviously between now and then things may well change. Quarantines may be lifted and risks may drop considerably. Seems fairly simple. But with a recovering mum and a new born, just what is safe? Do we book flights now, and risk going through several transport hubs, airports and tube, that will have had thousands of people through them? Do we wait till the last minute in the hope that we'll have more up to date data? Do we do it as a road trip with two stop offs in hotels then drive onto Eurotunnel? Or do we make the decision not to travel till the numbers are a lot closer to zero or we've had a vaccine?

Our current thought is not to fly, irrespective of the numbers in the general populace, as the transport hubs might be hot spots. But that still leaves us with the concern of what we might bring across, if we drive, to a recovering mother and a new born. And then three months later we have the same dilemma with number 3 daughter.

We're tying ourselves in knots trying to work out what we're comfortable with...
 
My eldest daughter is due to give birth in two months time. Ideally, we would like to fly in, mid Oct, a couple of weeks before the due date. We'd use the the time beforehand to visit family and friends, and then be around for the birth. That's the ideal, but there's Covid to consider.

Obviously between now and then things may well change. Quarantines may be lifted and risks may drop considerably. Seems fairly simple. But with a recovering mum and a new born, just what is safe? Do we book flights now, and risk going through several transport hubs, airports and tube, that will have had thousands of people through them? Do we wait till the last minute in the hope that we'll have more up to date data? Do we do it as a road trip with two stop offs in hotels then drive onto Eurotunnel? Or do we make the decision not to travel till the numbers are a lot closer to zero or we've had a vaccine?

Our current thought is not to fly, irrespective of the numbers in the general populace, as the transport hubs might be hot spots. But that still leaves us with the concern of what we might bring across, if we drive, to a recovering mother and a new born. And then three months later we have the same dilemma with number 3 daughter.

We're tying ourselves in knots trying to work out what we're comfortable with...
Thats a very tough situation for you and I can see how the practicalities and emotions of such a dilemma are so difficult to resolve. Is there someway you could come over, get a test while isolating for a time before visiting family?. Just a thought.
 
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