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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

fundy said:
I see the numbers in Germany maybe going in the wrong direction again :( Their R rate for the last 4 days is now 2.88 and for the last 7 days to 2.03 albeit it seems to be down to a few regional outbreaks rather than countrywide
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But they have a small total so a few more will change the R by quite a lot.

Seems the outbreak in the meat processors triggered most of the change.
 
drdel said:
But they have a small total so a few more will change the R by quite a lot.
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I don't believe their total (which at 190K is NOT 'small', though somewhat smaller than UK's; their death rate IS 'low' though) affects R at all - as, I believe, R = the Retransmission rate.
It seems to me that a consistently small recent detection rate ('detection' could be from deaths, admissions, testing et al) that suddenly jumps would be the cause. And indeed, the significant increase in 'R' (actually 'Rt' is what's used mainly these days) will be down to the spikes in meat processing plants, while pretty much under control overall. It demonstrates the huge risk of transmission in such environments!
Happy to be shown otherwise; can't seem to find the 'formula' that was scattered around t'internet a little while ago.
 
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Just to try and get this back to how the thread started, the personal feeling and impact of Covid rather than the political one.

How I feel that the moment is irrational, incorrect and open to criticism but, at the moment, my mind is telling me I am being duped. I know I am not, I know that there is a real and present threat from this virus but mentally I feel like the Japanese soldier holding out in the Jungle after the end of world war 2, hiding from a threat that is not there. Not sure that I am explaining this well but, as I said, it is personal feelings and they are not easy to put across. There is no covid in my village, there is no covid where I work, I have seen a number of events brandished as the start of the second wave from VE day to Bank holidays to BLM protests but I cannot see any increase in the spread. As such, I am finding it harder and harder process the risk in my mind and to accept restrictions and regulations. Don't get me wrong, I still follow them (OK at our outside meet on Saturday there were 7 of us as one family brought their young son) but mentally accepting the level of risk that I should do is now proving somewhat difficult. Part of me just wants to shout loudly 'Just Everyone Get on with it and Get Back to Living'.

As I said, not rational, not even a correct way of thinking but just thought I would get us back to the personal feelings rather than the political back and forth.
 
GB72 said:
.......I have seen a number of events brandished as the start of the second wave from VE day to Bank holidays to BLM protests but I cannot see any increase in the spread......
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Agree with this, assuming my dates are correct....

8-10th May - VE Day Celebrations
23-25th May - Large Beach Gatherings
28th May - First large BLM gatherings in London

In each of these instances there was huge media interest with photos showing people milling around (VE Day) and hundreds/thousands of others in close proximity (beach/BLM) along with plenty of comments that in 2/3 weeks we'd be back in lockdown due to the ignorance of people not observing guidelines. As far as I am aware that has been little uptick in the number of cases to do with any of these events.
 
Mrs SILH is working from home for the first time in her life and not finding it easy. A working life-long nurse she has only ever worked in close teams - being at home by herself communicating by Email and video conference is alien to her - and she misses the companionship of fellow team members.

And then there is the IT. She will admit to having been almost IT-illiterate - other than a bit of MS Word and basic browser based searching and buying stuff - until she started her new job working in the office up by Tower Bridge. Now working from home with her laptop desktop in front of her, and her work virtual desktop on another monitor...phew...it's difficult and she finds it very confusing and frustrating - and sometimes trying to sort things out so do I :)

Quick question. When I open a MS Teams invite in Outlook>Calendar on her Virtual Desktop - Teams does not find her laptop's microphone or camera. So that's no good. If I open the same meeting invitation on OWA through the browser on her laptop then it's fine.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Mrs SILH is working from home for the first time in her life and not finding it easy. A working life-long nurse she has only ever worked in close teams - being at home by herself communicating by Email and video conference is alien to her - and she misses the companionship of fellow team members.

And then there is the IT. She will admit to having been almost IT-illiterate - other than a bit of MS Word and basic browser based searching and buying stuff - until she started her new job working in the office up by Tower Bridge. Now working from home with her laptop desktop in front of her, and her work virtual desktop on another monitor...phew...it's difficult and she finds it very confusing and frustrating - and sometimes trying to sort things out so do I :)
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I had a different issue in that I just could not motivate myself when working from home. Something about that drive to work puts me in the right frame of mind. As I was free to choose (the fact that we produce wills allowed the office to stay open for those that wanted to come in) and I spent most days in the office irrespective. At the end of the day, I drive into the work car park, went to my office and sat in there for 8 hours working with no other contact so not a big risk.
 
GB72 said:
I had a different issue in that I just could not motivate myself when working from home. Something about that drive to work puts me in the right frame of mind. As I was free to choose (the fact that we produce wills allowed the office to stay open for those that wanted to come in) and I spent most days in the office irrespective. At the end of the day, I drive into the work car park, went to my office and sat in there for 8 hours working with no other contact so not a big risk.
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Mrs SILH has said something similar. She didn't mind getting up to catch the 6:58am train into Waterloo two days a week, and rather enjoyed the 1hr+ train journey in - listening to stuff on the radio or reading a novel...

All that gone at the moment. And given the state of things it's possible they won't be asking her to travel in for the foreseeable future - if they ever actually do so. As the team she is in is now all WFH - something they've been trying to sort for years - they might not revert to working in the office.
 
Does anyone know how long it takes after being exposed to someone with the virus for you to return a positive test result if you've caught it? I'm about to go away for work and when I get back my plan is to self isolate away from the family for 14 days. I'm hoping that I can shorten this period by getting myself tested but don't want to arrange a test for the 2nd day after I'm home if it takes 3 or 4 days to show a positive test result.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Does anyone know how long it takes after being exposed to someone with the virus for you to return a positive test result if you've caught it? I'm about to go away for work and when I get back my plan is to self isolate away from the family for 14 days. I'm hoping that I can shorten this period by getting myself tested but don't want to arrange a test for the 2nd day after I'm home if it takes 3 or 4 days to show a positive test result.
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I've just had a test today as I have been coughing the last couple
of days. Basically you need to have the test within 5 days of getting symptoms. More details here: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coron...-for-a-test-to-check-if-you-have-coronavirus/
 
yandabrown said:
I've just had a test today as I have been coughing the last couple
of days. Basically you need to have the test within 5 days of getting symptoms. More details here: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coron...-for-a-test-to-check-if-you-have-coronavirus/
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Thanks for the reply but I'll be looking to get myself tested while (hopefully) asymptomatic so that I can avoid the 14 days isolation when I get back from my job. I'm going to be working on a small survey vessel (zero chance of social distancing) and won't have any control on what the others in the crew are doing, or who they're mixing with, during their downtime. Fingers crossed they'll be sensible but as I can't control that I'll be taking every precaution that I can. My question was more that if I've been in contact with someone who is asymptomatic how long would it take to give a positive test result if I'd picked it up.
 
SaintHacker said:
Incubation period can be up to 14 days so you'll need to isolate regardless I'd imagine
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Cheers. We've got plans in place for me to isolate for the full 14 days if needed but was hoping that I could shorten that period with a negative test. Now just got to hope that the client will agree to pay me half day rate to isolate again like the last job so that I can get paid to sit in my caravan on the drive drinking brandy and playing on the PS4.
 
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