Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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pauljames87 said:
Day 5, still strong line

Today's is My birthday so rather than risk spreading too much I agreed people could come to garden to see the kids

My parents and sister came at 10:30 , I wore a mask (outside yes)

At 13:00 mother in law came

Everyone gone now

To spend the rest inside with the kids
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Happy birthday to us both ??
 
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pauljames87 said:
Satire is always appropriate

If you can't laugh then life sucks
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Agreed, Paul.

I absolutely respect that people are entitled to their opinions, but it has been apparent for a long time that, rather than seeking ways to live their lives as normally as possible, whilst maintaining their own well-being and that of others, too many are actively looking to prolong a form of personal lockdown.

As intelligent adults we should, after two years of saturation press and media coverage, be able to identify personal and third party risks, and take proportionate measures to mitigate them. It seems there has been a widespread loss of perspective and an ability to assess proportionality.

When I am infected with Covid again, and I doubtless will be, of course I will take steps to avoid infecting others. But those steps will not extend to locking myself away. If I want to go for a walk, I will. If I want to play golf on my own, I will. I haven’t had an accident in forty years of motoring, and have only broken down once despite driving 30k plus miles every year. As a consequence, I’m as satisfied as I can be that, if I travel ten miles to the golf club and back just once whilst infectious, the odds of either happening are pretty long. And if the odds aren’t so completely stacked in my favour and I end up at the roadside with a car refusing to budge, then I will dynamically assess and mitigate any new risk.

The apparent loss of all sense of reason and ability to think and act like intelligent adults, and I stress I’m not merely referring to this forum, is really rather worrying.
 
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Billysboots said:
Agreed, Paul.

I absolutely respect that people are entitled to their opinions, but it has been apparent for a long time that, rather than seeking ways to live their lives as normally as possible, whilst maintaining their own well-being and that of others, too many are actively looking to prolong a form of personal lockdown.

As intelligent adults we should, after two years of saturation press and media coverage, be able to identify personal and third party risks, and take proportionate measures to mitigate them. It seems there has been a widespread loss of perspective and an ability to assess proportionality.

When I am infected with Covid again, and I doubtless will be, of course I will take steps to avoid infecting others. But those steps will not extend to locking myself away. If I want to go for a walk, I will. If I want to play golf on my own, I will. I haven’t had an accident in forty years of motoring, and have only broken down once despite driving 30k plus miles every year. As a consequence, I’m as satisfied as I can be that, if I travel ten miles to the golf club and back just once whilst infectious, the odds of either happening are pretty long. And if the odds aren’t so completely stacked in my favour and I end up at the roadside with a car refusing to budge, then I will dynamically assess and mitigate any new risk.

The apparent loss of all sense of reason and ability to think and act like intelligent adults, and I stress I’m not merely referring to this forum, is really rather worrying.
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I remember this being done to death when first lockdown hit, when you were allowed out for that one exercise a day etc

But you shouldn't drive there (in some opinions) as that drive you could have an accident

It did get rather silly

Tbh this lockdowns have left huge mental scars

I'll use the example of my mother

For Xmas she got the twins membership to the local softplay so they could go every Monday

Now they had 1 bad week. No water their cuz of a leak and because it was still half term for out of London it was busier than she was expecting

She now finds any excuse not to go .it was horrible etc

They came to my garden yesterday. I've got covid. It was My bday. Tbh I was happy for her not to come and see me in week but she insisted

I wore a mask (outside in my own garden)

When she arrived she came round back, I said mum go in help yourself to tea etc I haven't touched anything today I've just got up

Refused

She was also wearing a mask. It's like mum my mask stops my covid getting you, you haven't got covid Dw

Her mask ofc came off when my wife made her tea

And she was all over the kids

It's that initial fear is fried onto people's brains

Not playing down covid either .. it's awful and still around but people's fear of covid is as bad
 
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Billysboots said:
Agreed, Paul.

I absolutely respect that people are entitled to their opinions, but it has been apparent for a long time that, rather than seeking ways to live their lives as normally as possible, whilst maintaining their own well-being and that of others, too many are actively looking to prolong a form of personal lockdown.

As intelligent adults we should, after two years of saturation press and media coverage, be able to identify personal and third party risks, and take proportionate measures to mitigate them. It seems there has been a widespread loss of perspective and an ability to assess proportionality.

When I am infected with Covid again, and I doubtless will be, of course I will take steps to avoid infecting others. But those steps will not extend to locking myself away. If I want to go for a walk, I will. If I want to play golf on my own, I will. I haven’t had an accident in forty years of motoring, and have only broken down once despite driving 30k plus miles every year. As a consequence, I’m as satisfied as I can be that, if I travel ten miles to the golf club and back just once whilst infectious, the odds of either happening are pretty long. And if the odds aren’t so completely stacked in my favour and I end up at the roadside with a car refusing to budge, then I will dynamically assess and mitigate any new risk.

The apparent loss of all sense of reason and ability to think and act like intelligent adults, and I stress I’m not merely referring to this forum, is really rather worrying.
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Good points, well made. I think the previous pages of debate were sparked from the usual, not so subtle, digs at government policy..."well they don't say I can't".

Personally I'm trying to get back to something like normal with the exception of wearing masks when shopping and not shaking hands after golf! I invigilated a 6th form exam last week (1:1) and the student came in and shook my hand. I was a bit taken aback for both Covid but also the unexpected, but rather nice, gesture.
 
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pauljames87 said:
I remember this being done to death when first lockdown hit, when you were allowed out for that one exercise a day etc

But you shouldn't drive there (in some opinions) as that drive you could have an accident

It did get rather silly

Tbh this lockdowns have left huge mental scars

I'll use the example of my mother

For Xmas she got the twins membership to the local softplay so they could go every Monday

Now they had 1 bad week. No water their cuz of a leak and because it was still half term for out of London it was busier than she was expecting

She now finds any excuse not to go .it was horrible etc

They came to my garden yesterday. I've got covid. It was My bday. Tbh I was happy for her not to come and see me in week but she insisted

I wore a mask (outside in my own garden)

When she arrived she came round back, I said mum go in help yourself to tea etc I haven't touched anything today I've just got up

Refused

She was also wearing a mask. It's like mum my mask stops my covid getting you, you haven't got covid Dw

Her mask ofc came off when my wife made her tea

And she was all over the kids

It's that initial fear is fried onto people's brains

Not playing down covid either .. it's awful and still around but people's fear of covid is as bad
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Part of the resistance to what some of us see/saw as reasonable public health measures is/was the unreasonable ones which gave the overall strategy a sense of unreasonableness. The Rule of 6 applying equally indoors (reasonable) and outdoors (unreasonable) was not based on any science or common sense. Likewise the one outdoors trip for exercise lasting no more than an hour was also pointless and unhelpful and undermined people's willingness to follow other more sensible measures.

Some measures applied at golf clubs, such as changing shoes in the car park and having an outdoors BBQ rather than indoors food service were reasonable, but
 
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Ethan said:
Part of the resistance to what some of us see/saw as reasonable public health measures is/was the unreasonable ones which gave the overall strategy a sense of unreasonableness. The Rule of 6 applying equally indoors (reasonable) and outdoors (unreasonable) was not based on any science or common sense. Likewise the one outdoors trip for exercise lasting no more than an hour was also pointless and unhelpful and undermined people's willingness to follow other more sensible measures.

Some measures applied at golf clubs, such as changing shoes in the car park and having an outdoors BBQ rather than indoors food service were reasonable, but
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Ah yes the rule of 6 out doors. Utterly stupid. We are a family of 5, I think for My sisters birthday last year we meet her and her husband in the local park and because she was scared of getting into trouble I split us into two groups ..

It was utterly pointless as the twins were in their pram under a rain cover anyways
 
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Billysboots said:
Agreed, Paul.

I absolutely respect that people are entitled to their opinions, but it has been apparent for a long time that, rather than seeking ways to live their lives as normally as possible, whilst maintaining their own well-being and that of others, too many are actively looking to prolong a form of personal lockdown.

As intelligent adults we should, after two years of saturation press and media coverage, be able to identify personal and third party risks, and take proportionate measures to mitigate them. It seems there has been a widespread loss of perspective and an ability to assess proportionality.

When I am infected with Covid again, and I doubtless will be, of course I will take steps to avoid infecting others. But those steps will not extend to locking myself away. If I want to go for a walk, I will. If I want to play golf on my own, I will. I haven’t had an accident in forty years of motoring, and have only broken down once despite driving 30k plus miles every year. As a consequence, I’m as satisfied as I can be that, if I travel ten miles to the golf club and back just once whilst infectious, the odds of either happening are pretty long. And if the odds aren’t so completely stacked in my favour and I end up at the roadside with a car refusing to budge, then I will dynamically assess and mitigate any new risk.

The apparent loss of all sense of reason and ability to think and act like intelligent adults, and I stress I’m not merely referring to this forum, is really rather worrying.
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As an ex Police Officer did you ever stop a motorist, did you ever experience a car shunting another, people having punctures, cars stopped for speeding or dangerous driving. What would your opinion have been if the motorist came up to you and explained they had measles or some other highly infectious condition. Why is there a valid business for vehicle breakdown and recovery outfits, it's can only be due to the fact that people have accidents and their cars break down

You and others have a right to your opinions and others have theirs. There seems to be a pattern here of those advocating going out and about with Covid finding it necessary to use sarcasm and insulting comments to make their argument. Why not keep it to the facts and make a case without playing the person rather than the ball.
 
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SocketRocket said:
As an ex Police Officer did you ever stop a motorist, did you ever experience a car shunting another, people having punctures, cars stopped for speeding or dangerous driving. What would your opinion have been if the motorist came up to you and explained they had measles or some other highly infectious condition. Why is there a valid business for vehicle breakdown and recovery outfits, it's can only be due to the fact that people have accidents and their cars break down

You and others have a right to your opinions and others have theirs. There seems to be a pattern here of those advocating going out and about with Covid finding it necessary to use sarcasm and insulting comments to make their argument. Why not keep it to the facts and make a case without playing the person rather than the ball.
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Billy made an excellent post that sums up what i and many others said - to then have the tirade of accusations of being uncaring, irresponsible etc - time to park your very well know views and whatiferies and let things move on. Maybe chill out and go for a walk!
 
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