Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Billysboots]

As an ex Police Officer did you ever stop a motorist, did you ever experience a car shunting another, people having punctures, cars stopped for speeding or dangerous driving. What would your opinion have been if the motorist came up to you and explained they had measles or some other highly infectious condition. Why is there a valid business for vehicle breakdown and recovery outfits, it's can only be due to the fact that people have accidents and their cars break down

You and others have a right to your opinions and others have theirs. There seems to be a pattern here of those advocating going out and about with Covid finding it necessary to use sarcasm and insulting comments to make their argument. Why not keep it to the facts and make a case without playing the person rather than the ball.

I dealt with hundreds of motorists during my service, ranging from stopping cars to give a driver words of advice, through to attending serious and fatal collisions, and not once did I have a single person tell me they had an infectious condition and ask me to keep my distance. That alone must give you some clue as to the likelihood of someone knowingly leaving their house with Covid AND being unlucky enough to be involved in an incident bringing them into close contact with other people.

 

[SocketRocket]

I dealt with hundreds of motorists during my service, ranging from stopping cars to give a driver words of advice, through to attending serious and fatal collisions, and not once did I have a single person tell me they had an infectious condition and ask me to keep my distance. That alone must give you some clue as to the likelihood of someone knowingly leaving their house with Covid AND being unlucky enough to be involved in an incident bringing them into close contact with other people.

You can't compare the likelihood of someone having Covid to other infectious conditions, the numbers with Covid in the country are now massive. If it's OK for infected people to drive that's a very large number of potentially infected drivers.

 

[SocketRocket]

Billy made an excellent post that sums up what i and many others said - to then have the tirade of accusations of being uncaring, irresponsible etc - time to park your very well know views and whatiferies and let things move on. Maybe chill out and go for a walk!

Why do you exaggerate so much. What 'tirade of accusations' are you referring to? Your own views are very well known and thanks for the advice but maybe you should take a spoonful of your own medication. I'm really chilled thanks.

 

[Billysboots]

You can't compare the likelihood of someone having Covid to other infectious conditions, the numbers with Covid in the country are now massive. If it's OK for infected people to drive that's a very large number of potentially infected drivers.

You asked me a question, and I answered it. The number of motorists having interactions with the police represents a minuscule percentage of the number of vehicles on the roads. That is a fact. And you asked for facts.

Everyday life is all about making decisions. It’s what allows us to function at a basic level. And identifying risks, and then mitigating those risks, forms part of the decision making process.

There is risk in everything we do. Getting up in the morning and walking down the stairs presents risk. Boiling a kettle and making a cup of tea presents risk, as does stepping in the shower and eventually, perish the thought, out of the front door.

But we have to be proportionate and balance the risks against the likely outcomes, or we simply cease to function. And I will maintain, based on my knowledge of the facts when it comes to motoring, that the likelihood of public interaction owing to an unforeseen event whilst driving to the golf club, country park or wherever, is so small, that the risk becomes negligible. Even if the worst happens, you can dynamically reassess your situation and introduce further steps to mitigate any new risk.

If you or anyone else are unwilling to take that risk then that is your prerogative, but don’t impose your opinions on others and expect them all to follow suit. Because others are able to take proportionate risks to allow them to live their lives, not simply exist.

 

[SocketRocket]

You asked me a question, and I answered it. The number of motorists having interactions with the police represents a minuscule percentage of the number of vehicles on the roads. That is a fact. And you asked for facts.

Everyday life is all about making decisions. It’s what allows us to function at a basic level. And identifying risks, and then mitigating those risks, forms part of the decision making process.

There is risk in everything we do. Getting up in the morning and walking down the stairs presents risk. Boiling a kettle and making a cup of tea presents risk, as does stepping in the shower and eventually, perish the thought, out of the front door.

But we have to be proportionate and balance the risks against the likely outcomes, or we simply cease to function. And I will maintain, based on my knowledge of the facts when it comes to motoring, that the likelihood of public interaction owing to an unforeseen event whilst driving to the golf club, country park or wherever, is so small, that the risk becomes negligible. Even if the worst happens, you can dynamically reassess your situation and introduce further steps to mitigate any new risk.

If you or anyone else are unwilling to take that risk then that is your prerogative, but don’t impose your opinions on others and expect them all to follow suit. Because others are able to take proportionate risks to allow them to live their lives, not simply exist.

I can't impose anything on others. I can only pass an opinion.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Let’s agree to disagree and move on please

 

[Jamesbrown]

One thing I noticed during my recent 1st brush with covid, was I had some pretty bizarre dreams!

I ALL NIGHT had the words repeating “bovingdon Fab” which is a fab shop in Canada and alongside those words dreaming of bits of stainless steel clanging together. it just wouldn’t end.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well right now to add onto the Covid going through schools There is also outbreaks of - chicken pox , Scarlett fever , D&V and hand foot and mouth ? and sorry plus worms ?

 

[Imurg]

Well right now to add onto the Covid going through schools There is also outbreaks of - chicken pox , Scarlett fever , D&V and hand foot and mouth ? and sorry plus worms ?

Anyone seen 4 dodgy looking Dudes on horseback recently..?

 

[Billysboots]

Anyone seen 4 dodgy looking Dudes on horseback recently..?

They follow me from tee to green. Every round. Giggling.

 

[WGCRider]

Need a bit of advise. I have Covid. Everyone else as out yesterday and the doorbell rang. Look out he window and saw it was our MP (a senior cabinet minister) canvasing in the local elections. I opened the door and had a good long chat with with? That's okay right - he was outdoors (no chance I let him in the house)

 

[PJ87]

Need a bit of advise. I have Covid. Everyone else as out yesterday and the doorbell rang. Look out he window and saw it was our MP (a senior cabinet minister) canvasing in the local elections. I opened the door and had a good long chat with with? That's okay right - he was outdoors (no chance I let him in the house)

Member of this cabinet? According to those guys covid is over so perfectly fine lol

 

[Swango1980]

As an ex Police Officer did you ever stop a motorist, did you ever experience a car shunting another, people having punctures, cars stopped for speeding or dangerous driving. What would your opinion have been if the motorist came up to you and explained they had measles or some other highly infectious condition. Why is there a valid business for vehicle breakdown and recovery outfits, it's can only be due to the fact that people have accidents and their cars break down

You and others have a right to your opinions and others have theirs. There seems to be a pattern here of those advocating going out and about with Covid finding it necessary to use sarcasm and insulting comments to make their argument. Why not keep it to the facts and make a case without playing the person rather than the ball.

I have not been a police officer. However, when police officers stop a vehicle do they jump in the car with the driver, windows closed and stay there for a long enough time to pick up an potential infectious disease. Or, do they stand outside in the open air whilst processing the details?

I'd imagine police officers would feel at much higher risk when making an actual arrest and having to potentially manhandle someone.

 

[Foxholer]

Well right now to add onto the Covid going through schools There is also outbreaks of - chicken pox , Scarlett fever , D&V and hand foot and mouth ? and sorry plus worms ?

You mean...'the usual school ailments'!

 

[Ethan]

I think some of the Covid decision makers had Scarlett Fever - I am pretty sure I heard at least one of them saying 'Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn'.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Good points, well made. I think the previous pages of debate were sparked from the usual, not so subtle, digs at government policy..."well they don't say I can't".

Personally I'm trying to get back to something like normal with the exception of wearing masks when shopping and not shaking hands after golf! I invigilated a 6th form exam last week (1:1) and the student came in and shook my hand. I was a bit taken aback for both Covid but also the unexpected, but rather nice, gesture.

He doesn't do that, he said so...

 

[Foxholer]

.. but it has been apparent for a long time that, rather than seeking ways to live their lives as normally as possible, whilst maintaining their own well-being and that of others, too many are actively looking to prolong a form of personal lockdown.
...

Or are simply opting for maximum protection for themselves and others.

 

[Old Skier]

South Korean doctor reckons if you haven’t had Covid, you haven’t got any friends

 

[SocketRocket]

I have not been a police officer. However, when police officers stop a vehicle do they jump in the car with the driver, windows closed and stay there for a long enough time to pick up an potential infectious disease. Or, do they stand outside in the open air whilst processing the details?

I'd imagine police officers would feel at much higher risk when making an actual arrest and having to potentially manhandle someone.

Seconds is long enough to catch Covid, the current strains are very highly contagious, that's why the numbers have increased so dramatically. Police have got into people's cars, I've had one get into mine when I was stopped, it was some time ago though.

The point I'm making is whatever the reason why take unnecessary risks, surely we can manage a week away from golf without becoming stir crazy.

 

[PJ87]

Seconds is long enough to catch Covid, the current strains are very highly contagious, that's why the numbers have increased so dramatically. Police have got into people's cars, I've had one get into mine when I was stopped, it was some time ago though.

The point I'm making is whatever the reason why take unnecessary risks, surely we can manage a week away from golf without becoming stir crazy.

It's entirely down to chance.

My wife got it 11th, I didn't get it until 22nd

Eldest in middle at 16th

Twins in the same house same air etc didn't get it

So "it's a second" doesn't overly come into it, you could stand next to someone with it and not get it

My daughter spat in my mum's mouth (not on purpose) and next day my daughter tested positive

My mum hasn't test postive

So it's down to good old chance.